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Old 11-06-2011, 03:46 PM
 
Location: North America
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It's not clear that DST reduces energy consumption. It may do the opposite.

Reduced lighting use trades off with increased A/C and heating use. This was shown to have a net cost in both monetary and environmental terms in an Indiana study:
http://www2.bren.ucsb.edu/~kotchen/links/DSTpaper.pdf (broken link)
Well Daylight Savings Time has been used for many many decades and used in most countries except those in the tropics near equator, due to shorter daylight difference between summer and winter.

If you read about the history of it, it has been measured that it saves energy use and other pro's, otherwise they wouldn't do it.
In 2007, they extended daylight savings in USA and Canada by 3-4 more weeks, which I love!
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Old 11-06-2011, 06:08 PM
 
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Well Daylight Savings Time has been used for many many decades and used in most countries except those in the tropics near equator, due to shorter daylight difference between summer and winter.

If you read about the history of it, it has been measured that it saves energy use and other pro's, otherwise they wouldn't do it.
In 2007, they extended daylight savings in USA and Canada by 3-4 more weeks, which I love!
The research is inconclusive. If you want to talk about that, read the article I posted and get back to me.

Otherwise, you are entitled to your opinion and Arizonans are entitled to theirs: Why we don't observe Daylight Saving Time in Arizona
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Old 06-16-2014, 09:31 PM
 
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In wikipedia i read, phoenix's temp can reach 100s F even almost 110, its still AVERAGE high. Record was 122 (50C)!!!

So I think sunset there at 7:40pm is already way too late.
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Old 06-17-2014, 06:14 PM
 
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In wikipedia i read, phoenix's temp can reach 100s F even almost 110, its still AVERAGE high. Record was 122 (50C)!!!

So I think sunset there at 7:40pm is already way too late.
changing the time doesn't change the amount of daylight you get.......I mean......you do understand that, right?
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Old 06-17-2014, 10:01 PM
 
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Yes but 5pm in the DST means 4pm in standard time, it's HOTTER
And who needs evening sunlight? People must wait nightfall to get colder temperature. With DST, its 9pm-ish, way too late for walking out
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Old 06-17-2014, 11:20 PM
 
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Yes but 5pm in the DST means 4pm in standard time, it's HOTTER
And who needs evening sunlight? People must wait nightfall to get colder temperature. With DST, its 9pm-ish, way too late for walking out
Phoenix/Arizona doesn't do daylight savings anyway, so they don't change their clocks.

For a vast majority of the country's population the summer temps are fine during the day and not horribly hot to the point anyone is avoiding being outside until nighttime.
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Old 06-17-2014, 11:39 PM
 
Location: New England
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If people want "daylight savings" they should just get up an hour earlier.

It's also very confusing that this thread was brought back now. In June.
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Old 06-18-2014, 03:04 AM
 
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No. I bumped the thread because I want to discuss the topics of Arizona's no DST
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Old 06-18-2014, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Chicago W Suburbs
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In wikipedia i read, phoenix's temp can reach 100s F even almost 110, its still AVERAGE high. Record was 122 (50C)!!!

So I think sunset there at 7:40pm is already way too late.
What do you propose they do about their "too late" sunset? They already don't observe DST. I don't feel like sunset at 7:40 PM is too late at all. I'll miss DST when we move there, but I understand why they don't observe it.
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Old 06-20-2014, 06:25 AM
 
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What do you propose they do about their "too late" sunset? They already don't observe DST. I don't feel like sunset at 7:40 PM is too late at all. I'll miss DST when we move there, but I understand why they don't observe it.
An example is in Tokyo. 7pm sunset but enough for exhausting. Humid and 35C
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