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View Poll Results: What states are "Southern".
Alabama 8 17.78%
Georgia 3 6.67%
Florida 2 4.44%
Mississippi 7 15.56%
Tennessee 1 2.22%
Kentucky 2 4.44%
North Carolina 7 15.56%
South Carolina 1 2.22%
Virginia 2 4.44%
Louisiana 2 4.44%
Texas 5 11.11%
Oklahoma 1 2.22%
Missouri 0 0%
Maryland 4 8.89%
Delaware 0 0%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-14-2011, 08:21 PM
 
Location: SW Pennsylvania
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The fact that -- as you noted -- the remarkably similar definitions -- exist as to the boundaries of "Southern American English" exist at all...I would venture to say, make a very good "case" for -- at the least -- a rough outline -- of "the South"
I agree with the Pop vs. Soda map. In all of West Virginia, pop seems to be the preferred name. The first time I heard "Coke" referred generically to all soft drinks was when I was in Tennessee and the waitress asked what kind of Coke we wanted. I also got strange looks in Alabama when I asked what kind of pop they offered at the movie theater.

As for Y'all...I don't hear it much among native WVians growing up, but it seems like more people are saying it these days. "You guys" was more than common than "you all" though.
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:29 AM
 
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All but Delaware.
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Old 11-15-2011, 06:43 AM
 
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kentucky, virginia, tennessee, north carolina, south carolina, georgia, alabama, florida, mississippi, louisiana, texas, arkansas
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Old 11-15-2011, 06:47 AM
 
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Well Missouri had a star on the confederate flag, although the culture is not Southern
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:31 AM
 
Location: West Tennessee
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Missouri, Kentucky, W Virginia and Virginia are all overgeneralized. All four of those states overlap different regions. Kentucky and Virginia are mostly southern, W. Virginia is debatable, and Missouri is probably 75% Midwestern.

The Missouri Bootheel is nothing but southern. The Ozarks south of US 60 are southern as well. North of there is when it gets debatable.

Culturally southern towns in Missouri include Kennett, Poplar Bluff, Sikeston, West Plains, and Branson. Springfield is a mix of many different cultures, Cape Girardeau is probably 50/50 midwestern & southern (Cape is sometimes considered to be part of the bootheel, sometimes not). Really once you get north of there Missouri isn't particularly southern, it's much more aligned with the midwest or a unique Ozark culture.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Everything South from Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming, Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Delaware is the South imo.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:42 AM
 
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I did not say that Virginia is not southern but that is has northeast qualities. Thought VA is a bit too far up north. Richmond is only 2 hours away from DC and 1 hour away from Northern VA. VA is apart of the Bos-Wash/ northeast corridor states. Look on the map there is nothing "southern" about VA. Plus it snows like crazy in VA nothing southern about that.

yeah thats why NOAA classifies VA in the southeast for climate....I wonder why that is. Just so you know, NC gets just as much snow as VA does, only the western parts of both states get snow (unless its one of those freak east coast blizzards)

So because virginia is closer to the northeastern states means its northeastern? Please go dude. I saw you in another thread harkering about how virginia was the south, now you make a complete 180? You're a troll.



I guess NC is northeast as well since it borders VA which borders the northeast, by your logic. It also snows in texas, oklahoma, tennessee, western SC, Northern GA, and even the northern parts of your very own state, nothing southern about that, right?
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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The map indicates the extent of the Southern Accent. Outside of the black community, there really isn't a definable accent amongst white South Floridians.
Well the Southern accent among White South Floridians are indeed there. They just aren't on the beaches or in the denser more urban areas of South Florida. They are in Davie and Cooper City and Weston and all of those areas out to the west. It exists. But I can understand that. Maybe the lack of Southern White Floridian accent is being outnumbered in South Florida. The same though is starting to happen in Houston and especially DFW albeit very slowly. My issue is with South Texas though.
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Spade - The maps, as I understand it, are not defining the "south" but the range of the southern accent. Having traveled in all these states, it feel pretty accurate to me. What carries even further weight with me is that although they illustrate the findings of three different studies, they are remarkably similar.
Understandable and I also feel it is kind of accurate. I think I would have extended the green down to and through Orlando and nobody can tell me they can't hear a Southern accent in Daytona Beach, Tampa-St Pete suburbs, Gainesville, and Ocala. It slaps you in the face. But like I said before, my issue is with South Texas basically everything South of a San Antonio-Victoria line. Either they need to do more studies or they are simply pumping out outdated data. You're not going to hear the Southern accent in Texas. You're going to hear American accent that is now heavily influenced by Spanish (if that makes sense). Mexicans clearly outnumber Whites down there now and the gap is only going to widen.
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I explained on the previous page, how Miami even historically speaking wasn't "of" The South. The 1st blacks in Miami really, were Bahamians.
Yeah but they quickly were surpassed by Blacks from Georgia and the Carolinas moving down there.
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