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Old 11-08-2011, 02:08 PM
 
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LOS ANGELES:

Great suburbs, lackluster core
Of course, I think the greater LA area defies categorization of cities and suburbs. A lot of what is considered suburban in character, such as the San Fernando Valley (which actually is much more densely populated and culturally diverse than suburban areas of other cities) is actually part of the city of Los Angeles.

And some of the liveliest nightlife hotspots (IE: the Sunset strip of West Hollywood) is a separate municipality.

But I LOVE that about LA.

But I do understand what you are saying, while downtown LA does have a lot of awesome stuff there and is getting even better, its rather underwhelming considering the size of LA.
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Old 11-08-2011, 02:09 PM
 
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I would also add,

depends on what you consider great and lackluster, for what you are looking for.

Chicagos suburbs are GREAT for families, but lackluster for singles.
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Old 11-08-2011, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Old Hyde Park, Kansas City,MO
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The Entire State of Florida = Lackluster
Phoenix - Lackluster Core - But Suburbs are pretty lackluster besides Scottsdale and Tempe
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Old 11-08-2011, 02:18 PM
 
Location: The City
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LOS ANGELES:

Great suburbs, lackluster core

SAN FRANCISO:

Great core, lackluster suburbs

DALLAS:

Great suburbs, lackluster core

FORT WORT:

Great suburbs, great core

AUSTIN:

Great suburbs, great core

SAN ANTONIO:

Great core, lackluster suburbs
How would you call the SF burbs lackluster?

Or for that matter say that either Austin or Ft Worth have a great core and LA a lackluster core? seems odd to me really
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Old 11-08-2011, 02:37 PM
 
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SAN FRANCISO:

Great core, lackluster suburbs

FORT WORTH:

Great suburbs, great core

AUSTIN:

Great suburbs
, great core
I'm confused about what would be so much better about the suburbs in Fort Worth and Austin as opposed to the San Francisco Bay Area?

Not even counting everything to do in Oakland and Berkeley (which aren't even really suburban but the center of the East Bay)--San Francisco has some nice suburbs just down the peninsula:

San Mateo, Burlingame, and Redwood City all have fairly nice downtown areas(for their size). Palo Alto is a classic college town and nearby Menlo Park has nice tree-lined neighborhoods and streets. You've got places like Pacifica and Half Moon Bay further south that are right on the Pacific Coast beaches. Across the bridge in Marin you have a mix of upscale little villages along the bay like Sausalito and Tiburon and small towns like Mill Valley at the edge of the redwoods on the slope of Mt. Tamalpais. That's just what's close to San Francisco. You can look at the rest of the Bay Area and find other nice suburbs---I'd say in general the Bay has one of the more varied and interesting mixes of suburbs along US metros.

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Old 11-08-2011, 03:58 PM
 
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Orlando itself is a very attractive city, with a lot of shaded trees and dozens of lakes.

The touristy areas outside of Orlando are a sprawlish nightmare, thanks to Disney World.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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New Orleans is an example of a city with a great downtown but lacklustre suburbs, while Detroit is the opposite. What other examples can you think of?
Even with Detroit, I'd be somewhat careful of that assessment. Almost all suburbs are safer than Detroit city proper, but they do run the gamut from really nice to lackluster. Also, unless you're into shopping malls and high-end grocery chains, I'd say that downtown Detroit has as much to do as a comparable built-up area in the suburbs.

But I know what you're trying to say.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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How would you call the SF burbs lackluster?

Or for that matter say that either Austin or Ft Worth have a great core and LA a lackluster core? seems odd to me really
For their sizes both Austin & Fort Worth have much better cores than LA. Forgot to mention San Antonio.

LA's core is just a step above Houston & Dallas IMO.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:53 AM
 
Location: The City
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For their sizes both Austin & Fort Worth have much better cores than LA. Forgot to mention San Antonio.

LA's core is just a step above Houston & Dallas IMO.
Well maybe we can agree to disagree, LA has a top ten core IMHO, none of the TX cities play in this space from my perspective, some great metros but FT Worth and Austin are not top 10 DTs in the US
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:16 AM
 
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LOS ANGELES:

Great suburbs, lackluster core

SAN FRANCISO:

Great core, great suburbs

DALLAS:

Great suburbs, lackluster core

FORT WORT:

Great suburbs, lackluster core

AUSTIN:

Great suburbs, lackluster core

SAN ANTONIO:

average core, lackluster suburbs
edited in bold.
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