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Old 05-01-2016, 04:02 PM
 
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Wow, You call NYC the lower northeast? To me that's specifically reserved for Pennsylvania and New Jersey.
Interesting because parts of NJ are more north than all of NYC. If New England is New England, and part of the Northeast, and NJ and PA are the "lower Northeast", then where does NYS/NYC fit in in your view?

Personally, I don't identify much with Mid-Atlantic. I would say NJ is in it for sure, but if people ask what region I'm from I say the Northeast. I'm a Northeasterner first if we're discussing regions.
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Old 05-01-2016, 04:16 PM
 
Location: PG County, MD
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Personally, I don't identify much with Mid-Atlantic. I would say NJ is in it for sure, but if people ask what region I'm from I say the Northeast. I'm a Northeasterner first if we're discussing regions.
Interesting. In Maryland, I'd say most people identify as being from the Mid-Atlantic first and the Northeast only when pressed to say some greater region than the Mid-Atlantic. There's not very much "we're Northeastern" self-identity in the state, even if urban Maryland's culture would align it so.
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Old 05-01-2016, 04:47 PM
 
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What the hell is "Lower Northeast"? Lived Upstate NY and never heard this term; been all through Maryland and PA and never heard it either...

Hint: it doesn't really exist...
It's just a convenience that is used by some, which causes it to have varying meanings for some (to me, it's the southern end of the Northeast, not even half of the region).
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Old 05-01-2016, 04:50 PM
 
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Interesting because parts of NJ are more north than all of NYC. If New England is New England, and part of the Northeast, and NJ and PA are the "lower Northeast", then where does NYS/NYC fit in in your view?

Personally, I don't identify much with Mid-Atlantic. I would say NJ is in it for sure, but if people ask what region I'm from I say the Northeast. I'm a Northeasterner first if we're discussing regions.
I had a subsequent post that clarified what I meant. NYC is on Connecticut's doorstep--it's "up there" IMO. The southern halves of so of PA and NJ as well as northern DE are in the "region" to me.
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Old 05-01-2016, 04:52 PM
 
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Interesting. In Maryland, I'd say most people identify as being from the Mid-Atlantic first and the Northeast only when pressed to say some greater region than the Mid-Atlantic. There's not very much "we're Northeastern" self-identity in the state, even if urban Maryland's culture would align it so.
That's true. A lot of people here refer to "the south" as another place and "the north" as another place, though it's probably different outside of the Baltimore metro.
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Old 05-01-2016, 05:11 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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That's true. A lot of people here refer to "the south" as another place and "the north" as another place, though it's probably different outside of the Baltimore metro.
I agree. It seems people here don't know what they are, but they know they aren't southern and they know they're not NYC; however, they seem to not want it any other way.
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Old 05-02-2016, 09:46 AM
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I know that I'm being lazy but bear with me. What is the Mid-Atlantic (what's its culture, climate, and other attributes this region)? What makes New York City (and state) Mid-Atlantic along with Northern New Jersey? What makes Philadelphia (and South Jersey) Mid-Atlantic along with Wilmington, DE (and the rest of DE)? What makes Baltimore & DC Mid-Atlantic along with the rest of Maryland & how does New York relate to Maryland and can someone really mistake a Black person from Alexandria with a Black Philadelphian and why is Northern VA the cut-off point with this Mid-Atlantic concept?

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Old 05-02-2016, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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I know that I'm being lazy but bear with me. What is the Mid-Atlantic (what's its culture, climate, and other attributes this region)? What makes New York City (and state) Mid-Atlantic along with Northern New Jersey? What makes Philadelphia (and South Jersey) Mid-Atlantic along with Wilmington, DE (and the rest of DE)? What makes Baltimore & DC Mid-Atlantic along with the rest of Maryland & how does New York relate to Maryland and can someone really mistake a Black person from Alexandria with a Black Philadelphian and why is Northern VA the cut-off point with this Mid-Atlantic concept?
Because below Northern Virginia the culture and dialect cease to have any ties to Northern Virginia upward that's why.
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Old 05-02-2016, 01:19 PM
 
Location: PG County, MD
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Because below Northern Virginia the culture and dialect cease to have any ties to Northern Virginia upward that's why.
If we're going by dialect though, NY shouldn't be in the mix, should it? As it doesn't have a Midland dialect like the rest of the region predominantly does.
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Old 05-02-2016, 04:33 PM
 
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I know that I'm being lazy but bear with me. What is the Mid-Atlantic (what's its culture, climate, and other attributes this region)? What makes New York City (and state) Mid-Atlantic along with Northern New Jersey? What makes Philadelphia (and South Jersey) Mid-Atlantic along with Wilmington, DE (and the rest of DE)? What makes Baltimore & DC Mid-Atlantic along with the rest of Maryland & how does New York relate to Maryland and can someone really mistake a Black person from Alexandria with a Black Philadelphian and why is Northern VA the cut-off point with this Mid-Atlantic concept?
There is no real regional identity. It just is a way to combine the parts of the NE that aren't New England and the parts of the South that have become un-southern culturally (think DC area).
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