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Old 11-09-2011, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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The US and no country will every build a country wide high speed Rail system , it makes no sense.
Wrong. As Oy Crumbler has already pointed out, several countries already have/are building nationwide networks. Japan, China, Spain, Germany, France, etc.

Maybe you should travel some......
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:45 AM
 
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Yes I'm for the high speed rail

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Old 11-09-2011, 09:02 AM
 
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Yes...

If we got all that extra money to waste on War why not?

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Old 11-09-2011, 09:07 AM
 
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1. You'd be already spending a fortune on the high speed rail ticket, in comparison renting a car at the city would be pretty inexpensive, like 10% of the ticket cost.
2. Not sure if HSR would even have a stop at Columbia, SC
well it's $40/day to rent a car in columbia.

so that would be $400 for the ticket, and $40 for the rental car. I'm not sure if your assumption about ticket costs is right... but I will go with it for the moment.

IF the routes were available between my city and Columbia, which they wouldn't be, I'd be spending $440 on a trip that currently costs me maybe $100? Gasoline would need to be about $10/gallon for this to make sense.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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I support High Speed Rail where it makes sense, namely the Northeast. Yes, that's a good plan.

The current California plan in its current form is way overpriced and the CA High Speed Rail Authority is a bunch of pompous, arrogant fools who appear to have lied about everything from proposed cost to estimated ridership to working with the community.

For CA, we need to scrap our current high speed rail plan, kick out the officials who currently run the high speed rail authority, and start over.

There is no rush(as in we dont need to rush groundbreaking just so Obama(whom I support btw) can brag about it during the 2012 election season), but we stand to lose nearly 100 Billion dollars in wasted taxpayer money if we dont do this right the first time!
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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well it's $40/day to rent a car in columbia.

so that would be $400 for the ticket, and $40 for the car.

IF the routes were available between my city and Columbia, which they wouldn't be, I'd be spending $440 on a trip that currently costs me maybe $100?
Some stats on the closest thing we have in the US to HSR:

Acela Express

Maximum speed: 150 mph
Average speed: 70 mph
Ticket price: starting from $79 for shortest routes with 14 day advance. Business class and First class only. There is no Economy class on Acela.
Total Revenue: $440 million, accounting for over half of the total Amtrak profits.
Areas served: Bos-Wash, Northeast corridor line (NEC).
Annual ridership: 3.2 million people.

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Old 11-09-2011, 09:29 AM
 
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Some stats on the closest thing we have in the US to HSR:

Acela Express

Maximum speed: 150 mph
Average speed: 70 mph
Ticket price: starting from $79 for shortest routes with 14 day advance.
Total Revenue: $440 million, accounting for over half of the total Amtrak profits.
Areas served: Bos-Wash, Northeast corridor line (NEC).
Annual ridership: 3.2 million people.
correct me if i'm wrong, but those Amtrak ticket prices are subsidized by the US Government, are they not?
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:37 AM
 
Location: The City
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:38 AM
 
Location: The City
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correct me if i'm wrong, but those Amtrak ticket prices are subsidized by the US Government, are they not?
Acela makes a profit actually as does the NE Corrider for Amtrak. Highways and airports are subsidized, as well as many forms of rail
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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correct me if i'm wrong, but those Amtrak ticket prices are subsidized by the US Government, are they not?
The construction of the line itself was probably subsidized from infrastructure bonds, etc. I believe the ticket prices are not subsidized, since the line runs at a profit.
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