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View Poll Results: What states make up the north?
Maine 183 91.96%
New Hampshire 182 91.46%
Vermont 183 91.96%
Massachusetts 179 89.95%
Rhode Island 179 89.95%
Connecticut 179 89.95%
New York 182 91.46%
Pennsylvania 170 85.43%
New Jersey 171 85.93%
Maryland 100 50.25%
Delaware 106 53.27%
West Virginia (even if just in part, specify in comment) 42 21.11%
Ohio 129 64.82%
Indiana 115 57.79%
Michigan 152 76.38%
Illinois 127 63.82%
Wisconsin 150 75.38%
Minnesota 152 76.38%
Iowa 115 57.79%
Missouri 51 25.63%
North Dakota 130 65.33%
South Dakota 122 61.31%
Nebraska 82 41.21%
Kansas 47 23.62%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 199. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-12-2011, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL SouthWest Suburbs
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I wouldn't call Pennsylvania a Midwestern state.
Pennsylvania was noted as a Great Lake state.

The blur comes in because MOST of the great lakes states are in the Midwest.
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Old 11-12-2011, 08:42 AM
 
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Pennsylvania was noted as a Great Lake state.

The blur comes in because MOST of the great lakes states are in the Midwest.
I see. But couldn't you make that same argument for New York state?
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Old 11-12-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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MO doesn't feel Northern for the most part, but once you get around St. Louis and talk to people, you get the feeling that it leans Northern. The accent is similar to what you'd hear in Chicago, though not completely the same. Also, the dominant religion is Catholic, and a lot of the architecture in the city looks Northeastern. But a lot of the metro area looks and feels like it could be anywhere in America.
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Old 11-12-2011, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL SouthWest Suburbs
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I see. But couldn't you make that same argument for New York state?
Good point I totally forgot NY
Sorry that was not intentional.
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Old 11-12-2011, 02:41 PM
 
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I'm curoius, for those who Voted for RI CT and NY but not MA, is your definition of the North states touching Long Island sound?
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Old 11-12-2011, 05:15 PM
 
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I voted Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Nebraska.

I didn't vote Delaware, Maryland, West Virginia, Missouri, and Kansas because those were a mix between Northern and Southern.

The only part of West Virginia that's really Northern is the northern panhandle, but that's nowhere near enough of the state so I didn't vote it.
This is how I voted. You are exactly correct.

Kansas is much different from Nebraska. People in Nebraska sound "northern". Many people in Kansas sound "southern".
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Old 11-12-2011, 07:07 PM
 
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Kansas is much different from Nebraska. People in Nebraska sound "northern". Many people in Kansas sound "southern".
This is largely NOT true. Kansas and Nebraska are sister states and share very much in common, including the accent. People in Kansas and Nebraska pretty much talk the same. They both have the Midland accent. The true Northern accent, like you hear in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and northern Iowa, is not the dominant accent in Nebraska.

I know people want to think that Nebraska is different from Kansas because it is further north. But both states are very much alike. They are both heavily-Republican, conservative, western, on the periphery of the Midwest, largely rural states dominated by a few regional cities (Kansas City, Omaha, Wichita, Topeka, Lincoln). And they both have the Midland accent.
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Old 11-12-2011, 07:36 PM
 
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This is largely NOT true. Kansas and Nebraska are sister states and share very much in common, including the accent. People in Kansas and Nebraska pretty much talk the same. They both have the Midland accent. The true Northern accent, like you hear in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and northern Iowa, is not the dominant accent in Nebraska.

I know people want to think that Nebraska is different from Kansas because it is further north. But both states are very much alike. They are both heavily-Republican, conservative, western, on the periphery of the Midwest, largely rural states dominated by a few regional cities (Kansas City, Omaha, Wichita, Topeka, Lincoln). And they both have the Midland accent.
Listen, I never said that the accent is like the one you find in Minnesota. However, there are southern sounding people in Kansas. A friend of mine during college, from Olathe, Kansas, sounded very southern. During my travels, I've come into contact with Kansans, and a number of them sounded very southern. Of course, it's not a majority, but I have never heard southern-sounding people in Nebraska. Politically, they are similar.
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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MO doesn't feel Northern for the most part, but once you get around St. Louis and talk to people, you get the feeling that it leans Northern. The accent is similar to what you'd hear in Chicago, though not completely the same. Also, the dominant religion is Catholic, and a lot of the architecture in the city looks Northeastern. But a lot of the metro area looks and feels like it could be anywhere in America.
For the most part? I think around St. Louis, KC, and north of the Missouri River it feels pretty northern. Chicago's accent isn't the standard of "northern"...it's a great lakes accent. Although, St. Louis is influenced by the "Inland North" in terms of dialect. I definitely would call the state outright Northern, but I would say it is Northern with Southern influences to a greater extent than the rest of the Midwest.
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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This is how I voted. You are exactly correct.

Kansas is much different from Nebraska. People in Nebraska sound "northern". Many people in Kansas sound "southern".
You're mistaking a "South Midland" accent with a Southern accent. That accent extends as far west as Eastern Colorado. People in Kansas sound nothing like people from Oklahoma...now that is a southern accent. Nebraska is where the general american accent is.
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