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View Poll Results: What states make up the north?
Maine 185 92.04%
New Hampshire 184 91.54%
Vermont 185 92.04%
Massachusetts 181 90.05%
Rhode Island 181 90.05%
Connecticut 181 90.05%
New York 184 91.54%
Pennsylvania 172 85.57%
New Jersey 173 86.07%
Maryland 101 50.25%
Delaware 107 53.23%
West Virginia (even if just in part, specify in comment) 42 20.90%
Ohio 130 64.68%
Indiana 116 57.71%
Michigan 153 76.12%
Illinois 128 63.68%
Wisconsin 151 75.12%
Minnesota 153 76.12%
Iowa 116 57.71%
Missouri 51 25.37%
North Dakota 131 65.17%
South Dakota 123 61.19%
Nebraska 83 41.29%
Kansas 48 23.88%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 201. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-09-2011, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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I live in Michigan and I disagree. The northeast is very very different from Detroit and Chicago. Everything is different, the accents and the lifestyle. The northeast is fast paced, more urban and more socially liberal. Michigan and Illinois are much slower paced, much more rural and socially conservative. Chicago is a big city, but it is not like the northeast. You can drive 45 minutes out of Chicago and Detroit both and be in cornfields, drive on roads filled with pickup trucks. That is not really true in many places in the northeast. Maine and upper New England are very rural, but even there the people are just very different. Midwestern states and Northeastern states have little in common. The only midwestern state where northeastern culture has some influence is Ohio, and the far eastern side of Ohio at that.
I'd have to agree with this. In the south, you can find roughly the same type of generic Southern culture (yes I know it varies slightly from state to state) from Texas to Virginia. On the other hand, the 12 Midwestern states have a vastly different culture from the Northeast, and even the 12 Midwest states have significant variety amongst each other. But overall, the political attitude of the Midwest is very different from that of the northeast, as well as the culture and personalities. Minneapolis, Chicago, Detroit, Kansas City, Cincinnati, and St. Louis feel quite different in culture and feel from Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and D.C. There are some noticeable similarities, sure..they are more like each other than like southern cities, but they still feel far removed from each other.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Here's what I think, if we have to classify entire states:


Screenshot - 11_9_2011 , 4_28_32 PM (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60138420@N06/6330636528/ - broken link)
That's a very accurate map in my opinion, at least if we go as according to state lines as possible.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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What states are northern B]
The ones up north.
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Old 11-10-2011, 01:55 AM
 
Location: 30-40°N 90-100°W
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I'd have to agree with this. In the south, you can find roughly the same type of generic Southern culture (yes I know it varies slightly from state to state) from Texas to Virginia.
Traditionally, and if we're not just comparing the largest metros, it can vary a good deal more than "slightly."

The Southern culture of Lafayette, Louisiana; Victoria, Texas; and Richmond, Virginia are likely a good deal different.

The Midwest is a different region, hence I didn't go too far west in my choices, and the differences might be greater in a way. Still I'd think Ohio and Pennsylvania are plausibly more connected than South Carolina and Texas. As someone born in the South I might have once said you can find elements of a generic Northern culture throughout much of the Midwest. Iowa, Nebraska, and North Dakota look to have some of the strongest counties for Congregationalists or United-Church-of-Christ.

http://www.valpo.edu/geomet/pics/geo...regational.gif
http://www.valpo.edu/geomet/pics/geo...ligion/ucc.gif

I'm spacing a bit, but there are some commonalities even if they may may be less than those between say Waco and Roanoke. (As you picked Texas and Virginia)
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Old 11-10-2011, 07:19 AM
 
Location: MO
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All of them except for Missouri, Kansas and parts of West Virginia. While MO is mostly midwestern and Kansas is a plains state, they aren't really "northern" either. Now if we were to only consider cities, then Missouri is definitely Northern. I would assume Kansas is as well. West Virginia is mostly aligned with the south.

To put it in another way, Missouri is the deep south....of the midwest
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:39 AM
 
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Out of the lower 48 Maine is not the farthest north, although it may apper that way on a map, Minnesota is actually the farthest north because of that little chunk at top
Ya Maine is actually pretty far south compared to Minnesota, Montana, and Washington State.

However this thread is not really about geographical location alone. Part of it is culture.
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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I live in Michigan and I disagree. The northeast is very very different from Detroit and Chicago. Everything is different, the accents and the lifestyle. The northeast is fast paced, more urban and more socially liberal. Michigan and Illinois are much slower paced, much more rural and socially conservative. Chicago is a big city, but it is not like the northeast. You can drive 45 minutes out of Chicago and Detroit both and be in cornfields, drive on roads filled with pickup trucks. That is not really true in many places in the northeast. Maine and upper New England are very rural, but even there the people are just very different. Midwestern states and Northeastern states have little in common. The only midwestern state where northeastern culture has some influence is Ohio, and the far eastern side of Ohio at that.
You can definitely drive 45 minutes away from Philadelphia and Baltimore and be in totally rural areas. I think even in New York City you can be, although there are a lot more mountainous areas around there and that makes it difficult for agricultural activity.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:00 AM
 
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Out of the lower 48 Maine is not the farthest north, although it may apper that way on a map, Minnesota is actually the farthest north because of that little chunk at top


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Ya Maine is actually pretty far south compared to Minnesota, Montana, and Washington State.
Maine far south compare to Minnesota and Montana °_°

Sorry but how is it possible ?

when you look at any maps of U.S continental, you see clearly that Maine is the northernmost state. Even if it's further south, it doesn't look much lower than that.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:25 AM
 
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Here's what I think, if we have to classify entire states:


Screenshot - 11_9_2011 , 4_28_32 PM (http://www.flickr.com/photos/60138420@N06/6330636528/ - broken link)
I couldn't agree more with this map. Pretty darn accurate to me.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:27 AM
 
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Maine far south compare to Minnesota and Montana °_°

Sorry but how is it possible ?

when you look at any maps of U.S continental, you see clearly that Maine is the northernmost state. Even if it's further south, it doesn't look much lower than that.
No, you have to follow the latitudinal lines, not just "eyeball" it; the world is not flat..

The northern 2/3 of the state of Minnesota would actually be in Quebec if it was located in the Northeast, so Minn is a little further north than Maine..

As far as the poll is concerned, all but West Virginia, and a section of that state might qualify as well...
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