Does any one wish the U.S was more "Mestizo"? (schools, living)

[jerriblank]

I have noticed that in most Latin American countries don't seem to have racial issues like we do in the U.S (correct me if I'm wrong), and it is strange that we are not because of the long history of different people living side by side. I also think it would make things more simple.

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[skihikeclimb]

Originally Posted by jerriblank

I have noticed that Latin American countries don't seem to have racial issues like we do in the U.S, and it is strange that we are not because of the long history of different people living side by side. I also think it would make things more simple.

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No because even in Latin America there is still much discrimination against black people, so it has nothing to really do with mestizos.

[kanhawk]

Originally Posted by jerriblank

(correct me if I'm wrong)

I think you are wrong. Many latin countries don't deal as openly, and some might say, as obsessively about race problems as we do.
When is last time you saw a mestizo looking president of Mexico? Same with Brazil. Brazil is about 60% black, yet not one black leader of that country. The full blooded europeans who make up about 10% of the population do much better in Mexico than the mixed bloods and indians. In fact, they are quite happy to send their poor indians and mixed bloods across our border for work. Many other latin american countries are the same.
We are 12% black yet we have a black president. Some people are so hypercritical about race in this country, yet are the opposite in other countries, sweeping it under the rug, giving an impression they don't have race problems.

[GlockUnderMyKilt]

Originally Posted by jerriblank

I have noticed that in most Latin American countries don't seem to have racial issues like we do in the U.S (correct me if I'm wrong), and it is strange that we are not because of the long history of different people living side by side. I also think it would make things more simple.

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You're right, things would be simple if the US were more like LatAm. Especially for those who get to play the Aymara. No schools, no work, no power. Simple.

[Alacran]

Latin Americans do bad mouth native americans or blacks. With blonde, colored eye, white looking ones being praised.

But a typical Mestizo would be usually black hair, brown eyes, medium complexion, etc.
Those are the majority and I do think they don't care about each other's looks as much over there since the majority IS that.

[The Right Side_TX]

Kanhawk covered it pretty well.


How would the U.S being " Mestizo" makes things more simple? I really don't get that logic. No matter what you're always going to have some form of discrimination be it skin color, weight, etc. Have you been to Mexico or parts of South America? If not maybe you should plan a trip. Should put things in a better perspective for you. Among the most Discriminating people I've come into contact with are Mexicans & South Americans. Is America far from perfect, of course it is. That being said wanting us to be more like South America and Mexico would be a major step back in my view.

[Nineties Flava]

Originally Posted by jerriblank

I have noticed that in most Latin American countries don't seem to have racial issues like we do in the U.S (correct me if I'm wrong), and it is strange that we are not because of the long history of different people living side by side. I also think it would make things more simple.

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I'll be happy to correct you. This was the racial hierarchy in Latin America after the Spanish colonized it:


Spaniards from Spain
Spaniards born in Latin America
...
...
...
...
mestizos
...
...
...
...
...
...
natives
...
...
...
...
Africans
...
...
...
...
half native/half Africans



This is the hierarchy right now throughout most of Latin America (including Mexico):


Whites
...
...
...
...
...
Mestizos
...
...
...
...
...
half African/half whites
...
...
...
...
...
Natives
...
...
...
...
...
half African/half mestizos
...
...
...
...
Africans


half native/half Africans don't even register in the racial conscious of most Latin American countries, and particularly not in the Caribbean. There's such a tiny number of half Africans/half whites that they don't really register either.

A lot of Mexicans in US and in Mexico won't even acknowledge that there are Afro-latinos at all... they'd rather that latinos are perceived to only be made up of white and native blood as Native is still far better than black.

Brazil has a similar hierarchy, i.e. the Spanish were Portuguese and it tends to be quite a bit more mixed-race. However, blacks are still firmly on the bottom.

[Thomas R.]

It is possible things would be better for "lighter-skinned" mixed race people. In America we went a bit "one-drop" at times whereas I thought Latin-America was more a shaded affair. If you were mostly of Indigenous or African ancestry you were going to get shut out of power, but I think they were more okay with a powerful person having a black or indigenous grandparent than we were until recent times.

[goat314]

Originally Posted by Nineties Flava

I'll be happy to correct you. This was the racial hierarchy in Latin America after the Spanish colonized it:


Spaniards from Spain
Spaniards born in Latin America
...
...
...
...
mestizos
...
...
...
...
...
...
natives
...
...
...
...
Africans
...
...
...
...
half native/half Africans



This is the hierarchy right now throughout most of Latin America (including Mexico):


Whites
...
...
...
...
...
Mestizos
...
...
...
...
...
half African/half whites
...
...
...
...
...
Natives
...
...
...
...
...
half African/half mestizos
...
...
...
...
Africans


half native/half Africans don't even register in the racial conscious of most Latin American countries, and particularly not in the Caribbean. There's such a tiny number of half Africans/half whites that they don't really register either.

A lot of Mexicans in US and in Mexico won't even acknowledge that there are Afro-latinos at all... they'd rather that latinos are perceived to only be made up of white and native blood as Native is still far better than black.

Brazil has a similar hierarchy, i.e. the Spanish were Portuguese and it tends to be quite a bit more mixed-race. However, blacks are still firmly on the bottom.

Tiny number of mulatto (black/white) in Latina America? In many Latin American countries (particularly the Caribbean) the mulatto make up the largest portion of the population. Yet people have been taught that they are mestizo (native/white), because the Spanish have been a vehemently anti-African culture since the invasion of the Moors.

[faabala]

I'm doing my part. My kids are mestizo. Filipino and American.

I have often thought our country would have less strife if we were all a pleasing shade of brown.

Filipinos want to be whiter (hence the popularity of skin whitening products and light skinned celebs)

Caucasians want to be darker (tanning beds and fake spray tans)

Way can't people be happy the way god made them?