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Old 12-06-2011, 09:30 PM
 
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Look at movies from the 70s and beyond and you rarely see obese people. It really is interesting how obesity came about moreso in the last 25 years. Could it be the advent of the computer?
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Old 12-07-2011, 02:08 AM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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First part: Nah, that's not it. Hispanic adult obesity rate in TX is 32.7 and white is 25.5, at least a couple years ago (last stat I found). However you're right that there are lots of transplants in the major pop. centers in TX so that might affect the data. Also cuisine is not identical to the south! I'm not saying it's much healthier (it's not) but it's definitely different. Obviously both regions have some of the worst obesity problems in the country.
Texas cuisine is a blend of Mexican, southwestern, and southern. East Texas i've noticed tends to favor more southern foods.
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Old 12-07-2011, 02:10 AM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Look at movies from the 70s and beyond and you rarely see obese people. It really is interesting how obesity came about moreso in the last 25 years. Could it be the advent of the computer?
I think it's the fast food extravaganza and just the increasing amounts of available of food orders and quantities that have caused the obesity rate to swell up to what it is today. Places like WalMart have essentially allowed enormous amounts of food to be bought for lower prices.
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Old 12-07-2011, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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While I agree Alabama has an obesity problem (well actually the whole United States does), no one in my family is obese and most of my friends aren't either. In the Montgomery area, it seemed that the most obese people tended to be African-American while the whites were healthier and less obese. However, the wealthier African-Americans seemed more fit than their white counterparts.

I'm pretty sure in the wealthier and better educated areas of Alabama, the obesity rates are lower and probably more comparable to the rest of the nation. Alabama has a greater percentage of poor people who tend to be more obese.
Same here. I made a post in the NC forum yesterday about this same topic. Being overweight is actually embraced by many black folks around here and is considered sexy. Ever hear the old song "I like big butts"?
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:38 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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So, the poorest states are also our most obese. They also just happen to be red states. Where are they getting the money to buy all of this food? Would a conservative care to answer the question?
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Old 12-07-2011, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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So, the poorest states are also our most obese. They also just happen to be red states. Where are they getting the money to buy all of this food? Would a conservative care to answer the question?
If you want to get political, the fattest people in these "red states" tend to vote "blue", they're the ones needing the "free" healthcare.
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Old 12-07-2011, 08:37 AM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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So, the poorest states are also our most obese. They also just happen to be red states. Where are they getting the money to buy all of this food? Would a conservative care to answer the question?
If you look at the map Michigan is pretty obese. Also if North Carolina counts as a "red state" than likely so does Colorado and Colorado's the thinnest state they list. If you go by the link Utah is fourth thinnest, if I read it right, and it's definitely a red-state.

As for poor people being overweight when you're poor food might be a bigger source of pleasure. Fatty or sugary foods can be a cheap source of enjoyment if you can't afford cable and the like. (I remember it as such) Related to that is if you're life sucks anyway a meal of vegetables and low-fat milk might just seem to make things more miserable. (Orwell discussed this back in the Depression so fat poor people has some history) Also some fatty/sugary foods are relatively cheap compared to other things. Taco Bell, I think it was, was something many poor college kids ate. Lastly in our age the poor aren't working in fields or whatever. Oftentimes they're unemployed or in sedentary low-paying jobs. They can't afford gyms and they might be in neighborhoods where you don't want to jog much.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:20 PM
 
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If you look at the map Michigan is pretty obese. Also if North Carolina counts as a "red state" than likely so does Colorado and Colorado's the thinnest state they list. If you go by the link Utah is fourth thinnest, if I read it right, and it's definitely a red-state.

As for poor people being overweight when you're poor food might be a bigger source of pleasure. Fatty or sugary foods can be a cheap source of enjoyment if you can't afford cable and the like. (I remember it as such) Related to that is if you're life sucks anyway a meal of vegetables and low-fat milk might just seem to make things more miserable. (Orwell discussed this back in the Depression so fat poor people has some history) Also some fatty/sugary foods are relatively cheap compared to other things. Taco Bell, I think it was, was something many poor college kids ate. Lastly in our age the poor aren't working in fields or whatever. Oftentimes they're unemployed or in sedentary low-paying jobs. They can't afford gyms and they might be in neighborhoods where you don't want to jog much.
I think this is it.
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas, USA
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Texas cuisine is a blend of Mexican, southwestern, and southern. East Texas i've noticed tends to favor more southern foods.
True. The further east it's more southern, the further west it's more southwestern. And all the best BBQ is right in the middle

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If you look at the map Michigan is pretty obese. Also if North Carolina counts as a "red state" than likely so does Colorado and Colorado's the thinnest state they list. If you go by the link Utah is fourth thinnest, if I read it right, and it's definitely a red-state.
Colorado hasn't been a red state for a few years. The vast majority of the population is along the Front Range which, minus the outlier of Colo Spgs, is pretty blue and getting bluer. As far at Utah...Mormons generally treat their bodies very well (don't smoke or drink), and they have amazing outdoor activities to stay fit (like Colorado)....seems like a pretty good recipe for low obesity.

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So, the poorest states are also our most obese. They also just happen to be red states. Where are they getting the money to buy all of this food? Would a conservative care to answer the question?
If a family of 5 has $10 to spend on food, they can get 10 dollar menu items at McD's, or a bag of organic apples. For a family on a shoestring budget, which are they likely to choose? My guess is when push comes to shove they opt for the bad-for-you-but-ultimately-much-more-filling fast food.
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Old 12-08-2011, 12:18 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Look at movies from the 70s and beyond and you rarely see obese people. It really is interesting how obesity came about moreso in the last 25 years. Could it be the advent of the computer?
Portion sizes are ridiculous now. People want more bang for their buck, and they end up eating way too damn much as a result. That's the big culprit IMO.
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