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Old 12-20-2011, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Boston
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File:Singapore MRT route info panel.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is Singapore's MRT. I think it would be very helpful for anyone new to a city to know where they are headed using this panel info display. In the metrorail in DC, you'd have to get up and look at a map of the numerous lines with the stations labeled in tiny print.
Okay, I thought that might be what you meant, but wasn't sure. I've seen these in New York, where I agree they are useful, but I don't know that they would be of much value in Boston. The lines are mostly kind of short with significantly fewer stops than the lines in New York. I guess I'd say it's a neat idea, but fairly low on the list of spending priorities.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:17 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Yeah, and I'll offer the mincing answer: It depends. There are neighborhoods you can select in any big city where you don't need a car. What are your activities? Where do your friends live? Where do you work? You can't cast whole cities as convenient or inconvenient without settling these questions. I lived in SF (a cited exemplar) carless, for example. From the Mission District to Sunset via transit took over an hour. Is that more convenient than transit between two destinations in another city? No way. I can get from DT L.A. to Long Beach in 40 minutes on the Blue Line.

It all depends.
Who wants to be locked down to certain neighborhoods. That to me is called being a social pariah. If you are going to live sans car, you should be able to get anywhere you would need to go in the city, conveniently, w/o a car. If that is the case, the order as many have said is Chicago, DC, Boston, Philly, SF.
As far as PT goes, Taxi Fleets are often overlooked.
NYC has 13,237.
Big drop off.
Chicago has 6,951. DC has 6500.
Big drop off.
LA has 2300. Houston has 2,245 Boston has 1,825. Atlanta has 1600. SF has 1,494.
They definitely make a difference... being able to not call a cab and just walk out and hail a cab is nice.

The quality of Subways with NYC #1... then Chicago/DC in the 2/3 slots, then the rest is also similar.

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Old 12-20-2011, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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how late does some of these subways in other cities stay open? ..i heard NYC trains are all night..
In LA the subway is shut down from ~1 AM until about 4 AM, lots of bus lines run 24/7, in fact most of the major lines do, at least the ones I have ridden.

I don't feel trapped in one neighborhood here in LA without a car. Most of the neighborhoods I would have to make multiple transfers to get to are frankly neighborhoods I don't care to visit or have a reason to visit anyways.

I still think LA is a couple tiers below NY and Chicago, DC and a tier below Philly and Boston, and slightly behind SF, but I think other than those it is definitely next in line. The ability to live car free in LA is vastly underrated.

Also Grapico, good point about the taxis, that is interesting info, living in Hollywood my opinion is slightly skewed because we probably have 1/3 of LA's taxis.
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Old 12-27-2011, 10:51 AM
 
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What about the following?

-St. Louis
-Baltimore
_Milawaukee
-Dallas
-Atlanta
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Old 12-27-2011, 10:53 AM
 
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I'd say SF or DC.
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:35 AM
 
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If you can live near the rapid/light rail in Cleveland, you're pretty good to go. And if you live in University Circle (where Little Italy/Case Western/Cleveland Clinic/University Hopsital are), then you can get downtown either by rail or a bus rapid transit line.

The regular RTA buses are not nearly as good with a lot of routes being cut over the years. But the train system, although somewhat limited and in need ofmassive expansion to other suburbs, is light years over what some cities have.
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Old 01-12-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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Lots of cities have a few lines that can be lived along with no car, even Kansas City, which has poor overall service but a few 'good enough' bus lines. My brother coming from Philly lived in KC w/out a car and made it work. So did a sister in KC coming from Germany. Anyone can make it work with limited access in most any city - even KC, not known for high ridership. But it comes with some hassles.

Only about 5 or 6 US cities have transit solid enough where you can easily get to most of the city/metro w/out a car, which were brought up in beginning of thread.
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Old 01-12-2012, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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What about the following?

-St. Louis
-Baltimore
_Milawaukee
-Dallas
-Atlanta
I would assume it would go:

Atlanta
Baltimore
Dallas
St. Louis
Milwaukee

Milwaukee, Baltimore and Atlanta are the most walkable according to walkscore.
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