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Old 12-12-2011, 04:24 PM
 
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Nowhere super expensive, though - I am just a working girl. I love wildlife and animals, loathe temperatures hotter than 75 in the summer, am middle-of-the road politically....not sure if they would accept me in a red state...

City life is making me miserable....don't even want to go near anyplace with the word "hip" in it....
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Old 12-12-2011, 05:45 PM
 
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Smaller communities in northern, central, and western NY state tend to be more politically balanced, with cheap expansive properties if you can work anywhere, typically there are fewer jobs available the cheaper the communities get. Watch for property taxes which will surely be higher per unit price than wherever you come from. Economic situation may be changing in areas underlain by the Marcellus and Utica gas-rich shale formations which is roughly the area south of I-90/NYS Thruway. If you want to stay away from the gas then Plattsburgh and Canton/Potsdam areas might be worth looking into, 75 would be a heat wave and half the radio stations call it 23.

Maine away from the coast is pretty cheap too until you need to buy heating oil or find a job. They don't even have gas fracking to look forward to.
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Old 12-12-2011, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Not hip/urban/red and at least 3 months over 75 degrees...

Pretty much only leaves these states...
Washington St., Oregon, Colorado, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Viginia's.
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:16 PM
 
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Smaller communities in northern, central, and western NY state tend to be more politically balanced, with cheap expansive properties if you can work anywhere, typically there are fewer jobs available the cheaper the communities get. Watch for property taxes which will surely be higher per unit price than wherever you come from. Economic situation may be changing in areas underlain by the Marcellus and Utica gas-rich shale formations which is roughly the area south of I-90/NYS Thruway. If you want to stay away from the gas then Plattsburgh and Canton/Potsdam areas might be worth looking into, 75 would be a heat wave and half the radio stations call it 23.

Maine away from the coast is pretty cheap too until you need to buy heating oil or find a job. They don't even have gas fracking to look forward to.
Good locales and you can add Watertown to NY areas to look into. It has a zoo, Old McDonald's Farm in nearby Sackets Harbor, plenty of single soldiers due to nearby Fort Drum and the 1000 Islands are right there.

Just to add, the Syracuse area Watershed area is supposed to be off limits for hydrofracking.
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:49 PM
 
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Just to add, the Syracuse area Watershed area is supposed to be off limits for hydrofracking.
Not too much intersection of Skaneateles Lake watershed and cheap, an occasional bargain house in New Hope or Scott might be that way due to what the City watershed inspector thought of its septic system.
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Old 12-12-2011, 09:43 PM
 
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For a decent sized city that isn't too dense and where you won't be bored near outdoor activities, check out Seattle, Portland, and Denver.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:27 AM
 
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Not hip/urban/red and at least 3 months over 75 degrees...

Pretty much only leaves these states...
Washington St., Oregon, Colorado, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Viginia's.
Cool, seriously considering some of these, except WA (really expensive). I think MN is less recessed than some of the others? Correct me if I am wrong....
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Old 12-13-2011, 07:58 AM
 
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Nowhere super expensive, though - I am just a working girl. I love wildlife and animals, loathe temperatures hotter than 75 in the summer, am middle-of-the road politically....not sure if they would accept me in a red state...

City life is making me miserable....don't even want to go near anyplace with the word "hip" in it....
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Cool, seriously considering some of these, except WA (really expensive). I think MN is less recessed than some of the others? Correct me if I am wrong....
Given your original criteria and justifiable concern for a non-recessed area you might check out New Hampshire which is more Libertarian-leaning/middle of the road. Cities like Portsmouth, Rochester, Dover and Manchester have unemployment rates below 5% and without the trendy elements of big cities, though progressive for the most part versus trapped in another decade. Temperatures in summer are pretty manageable with only July and August breaking the 80 degree high temperature average.
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:20 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Default New Jersey!

New Jersey is a wildlife paradise that can be experienced all across the state. the rivers and extensive coastline make Nj a major migratory route for all manner of birds.

Cape May at the southern tip of NJ is the launching pad for red knots, woodcock, monarch butterflies and hummingbirds and so many other migratory species of birds that gather in the fall to await favorable winds to cross the bay on their journey south. People from away think nothing of hiring 'guides' for 1500$ during the migrations in the fall and spring.

fox, deer, mink, muskrat, raccoon, oppossum, hawks and owls can be found almost everywhere even in the shadow of cities and towns. Bears and eagles, osprey, fishers, beaver and otter are expanding their territory to be found in unlikely places.

South J has a unique environment that differs from north J with wonderous plants and animals. The glaciers stopped in central nj and south of that the land had been under the sea. places in south j have been goldmines for amber and prehistoric animal discoveries. Visit the NJ stae museum in trento to see the mooose/elk that was excavated from a peat bog in sussex county. Mastadons are the state dinosaurs.



hunterdon county is one example of land stewardship where you can find miles of trails and parcels of land to roam without ever seeing another soul. Nj has so much public land that rarely sees visitors. You would be shocked at the amount of parcels throughout the state and be twice as shocked at their emptiness. Visitors form England, Scotland, Belgium and Switzerland have been in absolute awe of the quality of land available for hiking and enjoying wildlife and most of all they are to a person amazed at the lack of other visitors while this land exists almost in the shadow of NYC and Philly.

take a canoe down 70 miles of the south branch and raritan river as it flows form the highlands to the sea......most of the time especially in the middle of the week or 'off season' you will be alone with nature.

Nj is unique in that the distance form the mountains to the sea or pretty much anyplace else is often less than an hour away. For hikes and river trips most places are within minutes of wherever you choose to live. Go to states like Maine and you find yourself living in one area and having to travel hours to get to a desirable location.

Take the visitor's brochure from the Rachael Carson wildlife area in Maine and cross out moose and you can use it to describe NJ. Though we did have a moose vist us once. Came down from upstate NY to the Deleware water gap area, hung out for a while and went back home.

Now don't get me wrong, Maine is a wonderous state and the big difference is that the 'atmosphere' is more widespread and absolutely wonderful, but to sell NJ short is to miss incredible opportunities of wild and natural treasures hidden in plain sight. Mink tracks mark the stream bank that flows by the lab where Rhogam was discovered.

Often someone will mark the end of country life and nature when a dairy farm closes its barn doors but realize that cows and farms were late interlopers and it is the very same wild life that existed before the cows that still roam unseen and in proliferation along streams, rivers and highway corridors, woods and fields.
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Old Hyde Park, Kansas City,MO
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I would try some dating site like match.com before you pack up and move, maybe you just need a partner/companion
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