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View Poll Results: Why do some people view the south as rural and the northeast as urban
Ignorance-They haven't traveled or studied enough to know otherwise. Plus, the media feeds them this belief. 35 71.43%
They've traveled enough, but they allow their prejudices to cloud reality. The media reinforces their prejudice. 14 28.57%
Voters: 49. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-22-2011, 10:09 AM
 
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Ok and without Atlanta...

The fact is the corrider does in fact exist

Both have rural and urban places

The urban in NE is more urban and cohesive

It isnt an either or
What about the other regions? Are you going to call them "rural"?
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:09 AM
 
Location: The City
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It is more cohesively developed? So I suppose North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, Minnesota, northern areas of Michigan, most of Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Ohio, and Missouri are developed?

near the population centers, absolutely and they are far closer to one another

Using your assertion no place is, especially the South
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:11 AM
 
Location: The City
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What about the other regions? Are you going to call them "rural"?

As I have SAID a million times in this thread, there absolutely are large rural areas in all parts of the country

Central PA is about as rural as it gets
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:17 AM
 
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They're northern states, and they never seem to get the bum rap of being called "rural". Well, Iowa does, but just replace rural with cornfields. The other three, however, are rarely called "rural".

Also address the Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, upstate New York and Pennsylvania, a majority of the northeast, and if you think it is more urban than the South?
If I live in rural Vermont, how quickly can I get to a major metropolitan area?

If I live in Iowa, what's the longest it will take me to get to a major city?

Is Little Rock, AR even considered a major city, even if it's the capital and largest city in Arkansas?
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:29 AM
 
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So the south is second?
No, the south is not second. In that map , the south is across 3 regions: Delta States, Southeast, and parts of Appalachia and Southern plains.

Plus that "southeast" region includes Miami and south Florida. I don't know if i'd call that "The South".
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Old 12-22-2011, 12:17 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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They're northern states, and they never seem to get the bum rap of being called "rural". Well, Iowa does, but just replace rural with cornfields. The other three, however, are rarely called "rural".

Also address the Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, upstate New York and Pennsylvania, a majority of the northeast, and if you think it is more urban than the South?
Maybe it's a matter of personal experience and perception? I've always known most of Pennsylvania (outside Philly and Pittsburgh) and upstate New York to be rural and filled farms, mountains, forests and small towns. Also, anybody who's been to Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont will recognize those states to be basically rural. Who says they aren't?

Heck, even Maryland is rural outside the Baltimore-Washington metro area on both sides. Part of the beauty of the northeast is that it has both great urban cities as well as vast rural stretches.

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Old 12-23-2011, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Austin folks are not Southern. Austin is located somewhere between Portland and San Francisco. At least it is in their minds.
Could've fooled me. I sure as hell felt like I was in the south when I was in Austin. They had southern accents, ate southern food, were bible-thumpers, conservative, and Austin had the feel of the "New South."
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Old 12-23-2011, 03:16 PM
 
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It's just a sterotype.
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Old 12-23-2011, 03:17 PM
 
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Could've fooled me. I sure as hell felt like I was in the south when I was in Austin. They had southern accents, ate southern food, were bible-thumpers, conservative, and Austin had the feel of the "New South."

Austin is filled with liberals who are cowboys. lol
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Old 12-23-2011, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Coastal Northeast
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The southern states are rural? Really?

So Florida is rural but Wisconsin is not?

So Georgia is rural, but Minnesota is not?

So North Carolina is rural, but Michigan is not?

So Texas is rural, but Maine is not?

So Tennessee is rural, but Vermont is not?

So Virginia is rural, but Indiana is not?

So Louisiana is rural, but Iowa is not?

So Georgia is rural, but Pennslvania is not?


What about the west that has so much uninhabited land?

What about much of the western midwest that is far more rural than the South, and the rest of the midwest, outside a few areas, which is typical of the South?

What about upper New England.

When it comes down to it, it seems like you're saying that the South is rural because it doesn't match up to the northeast Megalopolis, but couldn't you say the same for the rest of the country, including non-megalopolis northeast? It's also a bit of a crazy comparison. The megalopolis is a very small area. It's like taking the Piedmont Atlantic area of the South and using it as a measuring stick against the midwest, claiming that most of the midwest is rural, despite the fact that it has numerous populated areas.
1) Weren't we talking about South vs Northeast, not the Midwest?

2) Yes, the South can't really match up to the Northeast Megalopolis. It's not good or bad. It is what it is. Find me an area as tiny and dense as the Boswash and I'll digress. Until then, .

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