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Old 12-28-2011, 11:50 AM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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The rankings were based on trends in the price of housing, the unemployment rate as of September 2011, the ability to rent a two-bedroom apartment with a low-wage job, and the rate of serious mortgage delinquency. There's an interactive map included with the rankings.


Economic security of the 100 largest MSAs (grouped by quintile)

1. Oklahoma City, OK
2. Omaha, NE
3. Wichita, KS
4. Tulsa, OK
5. Des Moines, IA
6. Pittsburgh, PA
7. Madison, WI
8. Austin, TX
9. Baton Rouge, LA
10. Buffalo, NY
11. Little Rock, AR
12. Lancaster, PA
13. San Antonio, TX
14. Harrisburg, PA
15. Rochester, NY
16. Greenville, SC
17. Houston, TX
18. Dallas/Fort Worth, TX
19. Albuquerque, NM
20. El Paso, TX

21. Raleigh, NC
22. Denver, CO
23. Knoxville, TN
24. Syracuse, NY
25. Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, PA
26. Colorado Springs, CO
27. Nashville, TN
28. Augusta, GA
29. Louisville, KY
30. Albany, NY
31. Grand Rapids, MI
32. Columbia, SC
33. Columbus, OH
34. St. Louis, MO
35. Indianapolis, IN
36. Kansas City, MO
37. McAllen, TX
38. Boston, MA
39. Cincinnati, OH
40. Greensboro, NC

41. Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN
42. Chattanooga, TN
43. Birmingham, AL
44. Jackson, MS
45. Hartford, CT
46. Toledo, OH
47. Portland, OR
48. Milwaukee, WI
49. Dayton, OH
50. Portland, ME
51. New Orleans, LA
52. Richmond, VA
53. Akron, OH
54. Lansing, MI
55. Springfield, MA
56. Salt Lake City, UT
57. Virginia Beach/Norfolk, VA
58. Charlotte, NC
59. Youngstown, OH
60. Worcester, MA

61. Allentown/Bethlehem, PA
62. Cleveland, OH
63. Honolulu, HI
64. Philadelphia, PA
65. Charleston, SC
66. Bridgeport/Stamford, CT
67. Baltimore, MD
68. New Haven, CT
69. Providence, RI
70. Seattle, WA
71. Atlanta, GA
72. Tucson, AZ
73. Boise, ID
74. New York, NY
75. Memphis, TN
76. Washington, DC
77. Poughkeepsie/Newburgh, NY
78. Chicago, IL
79. San Francisco/Oakland, CA
80. San Jose, CA

81. Detroit, MI
82. Santa Rosa/Petaluma, CA
83. San Diego, CA
84. Phoenix, AZ
85. Oxnard/Thousand Oaks, CA
86. Jacksonville, FL
87. Los Angeles, CA
88. Sacramento, CA
89. Fresno, CA
90. Bakersfield, CA
91. Palm Bay/Melbourne, FL
92. Tampa/St. Petersburg, FL
93. Lakeland, FL
94. Bradenton/Sarasota, FL
95. Riverside/San Bernardino, CA
96. Orlando, FL
97. Modesto, CA
98. Stockton, CA
99. Miami/Ft. Lauderdale, FL
100. Las Vegas, NV

Looks to me like the top quintile is dominated by Texas and the Great Plains plus Pennsylvania; the second and middle quintiles are dominated by medium to large MSAs in the South and Midwest; the fourth quintile is dominated by extra-large MSAs, and the bottom quintile is dominated by California and the desert Southwest plus Florida.
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Old 12-28-2011, 11:52 AM
 
Location: The City
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Nice showings for the Burgh and OKC

surprised by Harrisburg and Lancaster PA

Also very strong showings for many TX areas including the two large areas of Houston and DFW
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Old 12-28-2011, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Syracuse, New York
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Syracuse is 24th. Sometimes a metro's "economic security" has more to do with people leaving the metro when things aren't going well.

If you're unemployed in San Diego, you still live in San Diego.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:25 AM
 
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Syracuse is 24th. Sometimes a metro's "economic security" has more to do with people leaving the metro when things aren't going well.

If you're unemployed in San Diego, you still live in San Diego.
Not true about Syracuse, which gained about 12,000 people the last decade. That is a myth about the metro losing people, as the metro population has been relatively stable for decades. There are jobs in the area, if one knows what industries to look into.

US2010 (keep in mind that Cayuga County is included for some decades)

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Syracuse Apartments for Rent | Apartments in Syracuse NY
Syracuse Apartment Rentals | Syracuse NY Apartment Finder

P.S.- Why do I hardly see you on the Syracuse forum?
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:02 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Not true about Syracuse, which gained about 12,000 people the last decade. That is a myth about the metro losing people, as the metro population has been relatively stable for decades. There are jobs in the area, if one knows what industries to look into.

US2010 (keep in mind that Cayuga County is included for some decades)

Central New York Jobs

Syracuse Apartments for Rent | Apartments in Syracuse NY
Syracuse Apartment Rentals | Syracuse NY Apartment Finder

P.S.- Why do I hardly see you on the Syracuse forum?
There's a crap load of Syracuse people in Raleigh as evidenced by the recent NC State/Syracuse basketball game in Raleigh.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:04 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Originally Posted by Gnutella View Post
The rankings were based on trends in the price of housing, the unemployment rate as of September 2011, the ability to rent a two-bedroom apartment with a low-wage job, and the rate of serious mortgage delinquency. There's an interactive map included with the rankings.


Economic security of the 100 largest MSAs (grouped by quintile)

1. Oklahoma City, OK
2. Omaha, NE
3. Wichita, KS
4. Tulsa, OK
5. Des Moines, IA
6. Pittsburgh, PA
7. Madison, WI
8. Austin, TX
9. Baton Rouge, LA
10. Buffalo, NY
11. Little Rock, AR
12. Lancaster, PA
13. San Antonio, TX
14. Harrisburg, PA
15. Rochester, NY
16. Greenville, SC
17. Houston, TX
18. Dallas/Fort Worth, TX
19. Albuquerque, NM
20. El Paso, TX

21. Raleigh, NC

22. Denver, CO
23. Knoxville, TN
24. Syracuse, NY
25. Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, PA
26. Colorado Springs, CO
27. Nashville, TN
28. Augusta, GA
29. Louisville, KY
30. Albany, NY
31. Grand Rapids, MI
32. Columbia, SC
33. Columbus, OH
34. St. Louis, MO
35. Indianapolis, IN
36. Kansas City, MO
37. McAllen, TX
38. Boston, MA
39. Cincinnati, OH
40. Greensboro, NC

41. Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN
42. Chattanooga, TN
43. Birmingham, AL
44. Jackson, MS
45. Hartford, CT
46. Toledo, OH
47. Portland, OR
48. Milwaukee, WI
49. Dayton, OH
50. Portland, ME
51. New Orleans, LA
52. Richmond, VA
53. Akron, OH
54. Lansing, MI
55. Springfield, MA
56. Salt Lake City, UT
57. Virginia Beach/Norfolk, VA
58. Charlotte, NC
59. Youngstown, OH
60. Worcester, MA

61. Allentown/Bethlehem, PA
62. Cleveland, OH
63. Honolulu, HI
64. Philadelphia, PA
65. Charleston, SC
66. Bridgeport/Stamford, CT
67. Baltimore, MD
68. New Haven, CT
69. Providence, RI
70. Seattle, WA
71. Atlanta, GA
72. Tucson, AZ
73. Boise, ID
74. New York, NY
75. Memphis, TN
76. Washington, DC
77. Poughkeepsie/Newburgh, NY
78. Chicago, IL
79. San Francisco/Oakland, CA
80. San Jose, CA

81. Detroit, MI
82. Santa Rosa/Petaluma, CA
83. San Diego, CA
84. Phoenix, AZ
85. Oxnard/Thousand Oaks, CA
86. Jacksonville, FL
87. Los Angeles, CA
88. Sacramento, CA
89. Fresno, CA
90. Bakersfield, CA
91. Palm Bay/Melbourne, FL
92. Tampa/St. Petersburg, FL
93. Lakeland, FL
94. Bradenton/Sarasota, FL
95. Riverside/San Bernardino, CA
96. Orlando, FL
97. Modesto, CA
98. Stockton, CA
99. Miami/Ft. Lauderdale, FL
100. Las Vegas, NV

Looks to me like the top quintile is dominated by Texas and the Great Plains plus Pennsylvania; the second and middle quintiles are dominated by medium to large MSAs in the South and Midwest; the fourth quintile is dominated by extra-large MSAs, and the bottom quintile is dominated by California and the desert Southwest plus Florida.
You shorted Raleigh in a thread that related cities to stocks. Yet, their economic security is 21st out of a hundred. Perhaps you'd like to revise your grading?
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:53 AM
 
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You shorted Raleigh in a thread that related cities to stocks. Yet, their economic security is 21st out of a hundred. Perhaps you'd like to revise your grading?
Raleigh grew too damn fast during the 2000's. It will not duplicate that performance during the 2010's.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:57 AM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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Originally Posted by Gnutella View Post
The rankings were based on trends in the price of housing, the unemployment rate as of September 2011, the ability to rent a two-bedroom apartment with a low-wage job, and the rate of serious mortgage delinquency. There's an interactive map included with the rankings.


Economic security of the 100 largest MSAs (grouped by quintile)

[indent]1. Oklahoma City, OK
2. Omaha, NE
3. Wichita, KS
4. Tulsa, OK
5. Des Moines, IA
6. Pittsburgh, PA
7. Madison, WI
8. Austin, TX
9. Baton Rouge, LA
10. Buffalo, NY
11. Little Rock, AR
12. Lancaster, PA
13. San Antonio, TX
14. Harrisburg, PA
15. Rochester, NY
16. Greenville, SC
17. Houston, TX
18. Dallas/Fort Worth, TX
19. Albuquerque, NM
20. El Paso, TX
Well that's reassuring and makes me a tad more confident in my move in the next couple months.
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Nice showings for the Burgh and OKC

surprised by Harrisburg and Lancaster PA

Also very strong showings for many TX areas including the two large areas of Houston and DFW
Yet they can't compete with the West & East Coasts...right?

Best locations in the nation NYC, Boston, DC, Philly?

Pssh
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Coastal Northeast
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Yet they can't compete with the West & East Coasts...right?
Right.
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