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Old 01-08-2012, 12:29 AM
JJG
 
Location: Fort Worth
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Because... you don't like it?
No, because it's pointless.

If something is determined and recognized as a city, than it's a damn city.

Plus, this has NOTHING to do with the topic.
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Old 01-08-2012, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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Interesting if true. I'm intrigued and frightened at the idea of a neverending metro. Spanning, say, from Houston to OKC?
I invite you to come make the drive up 45 from Houston to Dallas and then up 35 to OKC. A WHOLE LOTTA NOTHIN has gotta be filled up to see what you fear. I'm talking centuries worth of current growth patterns, not decades.
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Old 01-08-2012, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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There is a point where city population rankings pale in comparison to metro rankings. Here in Texas, no one considers San Antonio a more important city than Dallas even tho it outranks Dallas on a city to city population rank. Metro wise, DFW is the largest metro area in the state, even tho Houston as a city has almost twice Dallas' population. San Antonio, Jacksonville, Columbus have one pro sports franchise each, a telling sign of where they rank on a national level.
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:46 AM
 
Location: The City
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No, because it's pointless.

If something is determined and recognized as a city, than it's a damn city.

Plus, this has NOTHING to do with the topic.

A legal entity yes, as a real world functioning large city no. I will stop as soon as y'all admit that these lists are stupid in reality FW, Jax, Columbus, and SA etc are NOT anywhere close to the largest cities in America; all they are are vast areas incorporated with very little area remotely resembling a city. At least in FWs sake it is a part of a large metro; more than the others can say but a city like many others absolutely not; a suburban expanse in a lrge metro is what in reality it is; hiding behind a city monikor and acting like it is different is not reality by any means.

And yes I do quite like DT FW; always have but comparing it large cities; well if the same same suburban development as everywhere else in America is what it is, it mostly is the same as as everywhere else.

The DFW is avery large and among the largest metros in the US; FW is not a large city, sorry...
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Also keep in mind current trends don't always equal long-term trends. Only Detroit has a very real reason to be lessening in population so drastically, and even that trend will reverse some point soon. The West and South will top out just as the East Coast and Midwest have in previous generations, so don't expect Phoenix and Houston to be the next Chicago & Philly any time soon.
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:07 AM
 
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Also keep in mind current trends don't always equal long-term trends. Only Detroit has a very real reason to be lessening in population so drastically, and even that trend will reverse some point soon. The West and South will top out just as the East Coast and Midwest have in previous generations, so don't expect Phoenix and Houston to be the next Chicago & Philly any time soon.
Phoenix and Houston are already the next Chicago and Philly. have you been paying attention to anything that has been going on?
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:21 AM
 
Location: The City
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Phoenix and Houston are already the next Chicago and Philly. have you been paying attention to anything that has been going on?

Both are more like a smaller less dense version of LA than a Chicago or Philly. Houston will grow faster in the future

Neither of these cities give me a feeling of either Chicago or Philly honestly. Very different actually
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:44 AM
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Location: Fort Worth
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A legal entity yes, as a real world functioning large city no. I will stop as soon as y'all admit that these lists are stupid in reality FW, Jax, Columbus, and SA etc are NOT anywhere close to the largest cities in America; all they are are vast areas incorporated with very little area remotely resembling a city. At least in FWs sake it is a part of a large metro; more than the others can say but a city like many others absolutely not; a suburban expanse in a lrge metro is what in reality it is; hiding behind a city monikor and acting like it is different is not reality by any means.

And yes I do quite like DT FW; always have but comparing it large cities; well if the same same suburban development as everywhere else in America is what it is, it mostly is the same as as everywhere else.

The DFW is avery large and among the largest metros in the US; FW is not a large city, sorry...
My nose is bleeding....
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:25 AM
 
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A legal entity yes, as a real world functioning large city no. I will stop as soon as y'all admit that these lists are stupid in reality FW, Jax, Columbus, and SA etc are NOT anywhere close to the largest cities in America; all they are are vast areas incorporated with very little area remotely resembling a city. At least in FWs sake it is a part of a large metro; more than the others can say but a city like many others absolutely not; a suburban expanse in a lrge metro is what in reality it is; hiding behind a city monikor and acting like it is different is not reality by any means.

And yes I do quite like DT FW; always have but comparing it large cities; well if the same same suburban development as everywhere else in America is what it is, it mostly is the same as as everywhere else.

The DFW is avery large and among the largest metros in the US; FW is not a large city, sorry...
that matters more to the Government than "real world" function, as Boston gets about 1/2 the resorces of San Antionio although boston is larger in the "real world"
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:47 AM
 
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Phoenix and Houston are already the next Chicago and Philly. have you been paying attention to anything that has been going on?
Houston maybe, since it is the 6th largest metro, right behind Philly. Phoenix no, since it is only the 14th largest metro, and things have slowed enough that it will be a long while before it moves up in the ranks.
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