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Old 01-08-2012, 10:51 AM
 
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Also keep in mind current trends don't always equal long-term trends. Only Detroit has a very real reason to be lessening in population so drastically, and even that trend will reverse some point soon. The West and South will top out just as the East Coast and Midwest have in previous generations, so don't expect Phoenix and Houston to be the next Chicago & Philly any time soon.
Nonsense. Houston is larger than Philly at both City and Metro levels.

Please keep up.

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Houston maybe, since it is the 6th largest metro, right behind Philly. Phoenix no, since it is only the 14th largest metro, and things have slowed enough that it will be a long while before it moves up in the ranks.
That was two years ago and by a very slim margin. Even the philly posters (except Kidphilly) has accepted the Houston is now 5 in the country).

In the two years since the census Houston has surely made up and shot passed the 19,000 people that separated them in before April of 2010
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:54 AM
 
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Nonsense. Houston is larger than Philly at both City and Metro levels.

Please keep up.
Condescension, how cute (see what I did there?). Philly is still ahead in the latest census.
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:01 AM
 
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Condescension, how cute (see what I did there?). Philly is still ahead in the latest census.
see post 111 above.

If you think Houston has not grown at all in two years then no point talking to you.

Would not waste my time on arguments that daft

Houston 2 years ago: 5,946,800
Philly 5,965,343.

Philly is ahead of what? Maybe DC (not for long FYI) but not Houston.

Houston most likely passed Philly while the enumerators were still collecting data

Philly most probably is at 6,013,000
Houston at 6,300,000
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:06 AM
 
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see post 111 above.

If you think Houston has not grown at all in two years then no point talking to you.

Would not waste my time on arguments that daft

Houston 2 years ago: 5,946,800
Philly 5,965,343.

Philly is ahead of what? Maybe DC (not for long FYI) but not Houston.

Houston most likely passed Philly while the enumerators were still collecting data
This is really a big deal to you huh?
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:09 AM
 
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This is really a big deal to you huh?
no. just making sure you are sane.

something would have to be seriously wrong for you to think things stood still since april of 2010.

how ridiculous
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:21 AM
 
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no. just making sure you are sane.

something would have to be seriously wrong for you to think things stood still since april of 2010.

how ridiculous
Wow, just wow. It's not as if Philly is a dying city. You might be a moving target, but so are they. So eat some humble pie, would you? The census is not a perfect system, but it's better than your own hunches.
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:33 AM
 
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Wow, just wow. It's not as if Philly is a dying city. You might be a moving target, but so are they. So eat some humble pie, would you? The census is not a perfect system, but it's better than your own hunches.
don't try to poison me with your pie.

Eat it yourself.

Philly may be a moving target but it sure is a slower moving target.
You can't compare a metro with a 5% growth grate to one with a 30% growth rate and expect both to maintain their rank especially when the split is as small as 19K.

Keep your silly talk and your pie too.
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Old 01-08-2012, 12:51 PM
 
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see post 111 above.

If you think Houston has not grown at all in two years then no point talking to you.

Would not waste my time on arguments that daft

Houston 2 years ago: 5,946,800
Philly 5,965,343.

Philly is ahead of what? Maybe DC (not for long FYI) but not Houston.

Houston most likely passed Philly while the enumerators were still collecting data

Philly most probably is at 6,013,000
Houston at 6,300,000
Until the new MSA update comes in a couple of years lets not jump to conclusions and get full of ourselves about Houston surpassing any MSA as that is a controversial topic in itself.
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Old 01-08-2012, 01:01 PM
 
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Until the new MSA update comes in a couple of years lets not jump to conclusions and get full of ourselves about Houston surpassing any MSA as that is a controversial topic in itself.
the new definition are not going to change much.
Neither area is gonna gain or lose much from that.


Don't get your hopes up for Mercer, its commuting levels to core counties in Philly are not as high as commuting levels to core NY counties.
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Old 01-08-2012, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Both are more like a smaller less dense version of LA than a Chicago or Philly. Houston will grow faster in the future

Neither of these cities give me a feeling of either Chicago or Philly honestly. Very different actually
I can see the connection with Houston in that it has a grid network like Chicago and is also a manufacturing base. But yeah, it's more like a less dense version of LA. Definitely nothing like Philly.

Also yes, I do believe Houston will pass Philly and will be made official in a few years.
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