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Old 01-03-2012, 03:54 PM
 
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Some are declining (like Prince George's County inside the Beltway), some are reaching a plateau, and a few are still growing. Generally though, suburban growth/wealth is not quite what it used to be.
In metro Atlanta 1.613 Million people moved to the suburbs, 0.04 Million moved to Atlanta.
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:02 PM
 
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In metro Atlanta 1.613 Million people moved to the suburbs, 0.04 Million moved to Atlanta.
O..kay? But what was the ratio ten years ago? That's what I'd like to know.
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:03 PM
 
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O..kay? But what was the ratio ten years ago? That's what I'd like to know.
it was from 2000-2010 for every person that moved to Atlanta 403 moved to the Suburbs.
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:10 PM
 
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it was from 2000-2010 for every person that moved to Atlanta 403 moved to the Suburbs.
Oh alright then. In that case it would be interesting to break it down by year, if possible. And for all the major US metro areas.
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:21 PM
 
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Oh alright then. In that case it would be interesting to break it down by year, if possible. And for all the major US metro areas.
Ok this is suburban growth/City Growth
Boston 7/1
Atlanta 40.3/1
Washington Dc 38.9/1
San Francisco 7/1

I did this by finding the total growth and subtracting the growth in the city to get suburban growth, then dividing by the city growth to get an x/1 ratio.
* if you have a problem with my math please point it out so I can fix it.
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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How nice that you can benefit from a city economy without paying city taxes. As long as you can tolerate the commute.
Moderator cut: off topic/personal Many cities levy an earned income tax on the people who work in those cities. I pay 3.4 (within a percentage point or two) percent of my income to Philadelphia, more than I pay to the state of Pennsylvania. Because of reciprocation, I do not pay income tax to the suburb in which I live.

My suburb is subsidizing street repairs, emergency services, and garbage pickup in Philadelphia.



I may be benefiting from city services (although how much I benefit from pothole-riddled streets is questionable, and my employer uses a private trash hauler), but I'm also paying through the nose for them.

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Thankfully, a lot of cities including Baltimore are on the rebound and I plan on moving back and being a part of the rebound as soon as I'm financially capable.
Yeah, I've noticed that many city neighborhoods are out of the reach of many middle income and working class folks. Guess we're stuck living in the 'burbs, where housing is more affordable.

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Old 01-03-2012, 07:29 PM
 
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Many cities levy an earned income tax on the people who work in those cities. I pay 3.4 (within a percentage point or two) percent of my income to Philadelphia, more than I pay to the state of Pennsylvania. Because of reciprocation, I do not pay income tax to the suburb in which I live.

My suburb is subsidizing street repairs, emergency services, and garbage pickup in Philadelphia.



I may be benefiting from city services (although how much I benefit from pothole-riddled streets is questionable, and my employer uses a private trash hauler), but I'm also paying through the nose for them.


Yeah, I've noticed that many city neighborhoods are out of the reach of many middle income and working class folks. Guess we're stuck living in the 'burbs, where housing is more affordable.
At the same time people in cities and rural areas, nationwide, are subsidizing your suburban living. People in the suburbs get the most handouts, so I dont understand what you have to complain about.

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Old 01-03-2012, 07:33 PM
 
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Ok this is suburban growth/City Growth
Boston 7/1
Atlanta 40.3/1
Washington Dc 38.9/1
San Francisco 7/1

I did this by finding the total growth and subtracting the growth in the city to get suburban growth, then dividing by the city growth to get an x/1 ratio.
* if you have a problem with my math please point it out so I can fix it.
Interesting. Still hoping someone can do year by year, because I suspect the ratios are gradually getting smaller in most metros. But thanks for that.
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Old 01-03-2012, 08:29 PM
 
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At the same time people in cities and rural areas, nationwide, are subsidizing your suburban living. People in the suburbs get the most handouts, so I dont understand what you have to complain about.
I'm not complaining; que sera sera. I'm simply refuting the misinformed and incorrect assertion posted in this thread (and in many others) that suburban residents don't pay for the services the city provides.
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