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Old 12-31-2011, 02:03 PM
 
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:11 PM
 
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I have happily made the move from suburbs to city, but I'm not one for dancing on graves. There was a reason Americans moved to the suburbs in the first place, and we need to remember the lessons from those times, lest we repeat them.
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:30 PM
 
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I have happily made the move from suburbs to city, but I'm not one for dancing on graves. There was a reason Americans moved to the suburbs in the first place, and we need to remember the lessons from those times, lest we repeat them.
White people fled to suburbs so they didnt have to live next to black people.

Now that white people are moving back into cities and forcing black people into suburbs, more are moving into cities.

I guess the lesson is that some people are racist?
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:36 PM
 
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White people fled to suburbs so they didnt have to live next to black people.

Now that white people are moving back into cities and forcing black people into suburbs, more are moving into cities.

I guess the lesson is that some people are racist?
It's just that simple, huh? It's alright, I'm kind of an idealist myself, but it's been a while since freshman year.
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:39 PM
 
Location: United State of Texas
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WOW. Somebody needs to inform our local builders that suburbs are not successful. They are building them like crazy here and people are waiting to move in as soon as they are done.
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:13 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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Nothing is going to extinguish the market for families wanting to live in a bigger house in an area with better school districts, race being irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. Ambitious urban planning projects are obviously a great thing, but for the idea to have suburbs languishing in their wake is a bad idea and unrealistic. Like urban renewal, I think suburban renewal is in order and try to find ways to make cities and suburbs alike improve in quality of life and cohesiveness.
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:18 PM
 
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White people fled to suburbs so they didnt have to live next to black people.

Now that white people are moving back into cities and forcing black people into suburbs, more are moving into cities.

I guess the lesson is that some people are racist?

I thought the reason was you could buy a bigger house with a bigger yard for less money and taxes than what could be bought in the city.
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:22 PM
 
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Nothing is going to extinguish the market for families wanting to live in a bigger house in an area with better school districts, race being irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. Ambitious urban planning projects are obviously a great thing, but for the idea to have suburbs languishing in their wake is a bad idea and unrealistic. Like urban renewal, I think suburban renewal is in order and try to find ways to make cities and suburbs alike improve in quality of life and cohesiveness.
I wouldn't necessarily assume that the suburbs will always have better school districts, but the rest of your post is spot on.
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:25 PM
 
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Nothing is going to extinguish the market for families wanting to live in a bigger house in an area with better school districts, race being irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. Ambitious urban planning projects are obviously a great thing, but for the idea to have suburbs languishing in their wake is a bad idea and unrealistic. Like urban renewal, I think suburban renewal is in order and try to find ways to make cities and suburbs alike improve in quality of life and cohesiveness.
The reason cities tend to have bad school districts is because the middle and upper classes fled.

Anyway, I phrased the title bad. Suburbs that embrace smart growth will thrive, along with cities. What we are seeing is the beginning of a decline of sprawl. Cities that focus on endless subdivisions, strip malls, and over reliance on the car will suffer.
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:29 PM
 
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Don't care. There are still many houses in the suburbs available to buy. I'm going to be one of them. I hate the city, the mentality, the people, and the lifestyle. I need peace and quiet. Not rudeness, crime, and congestion. So you can keep your nasty little city. I'll keep my big 2 story home in my suburban neighborhood with lots of space, clean air, and wide open skies.
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