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Old 01-04-2012, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Hot New Trendy Cities List
1. Long Beach CA
2.Sacramento CA
3.Salt Lake City
4.Reno NV
5.Tucson AZ
6.Santa Fe & Albuquerque
7.Des Moines Iowa
8.Spokane WA
9.Omaha


10.Madison Wisconsin
11.Rochester Minneasota
12.Raleigh NC
13.Charleston SC
14.Columbia SC
15.Norfolk VA
16.Richmond VA
17.Kansas City MO & KS

The Last Three Cities Are In Extremely Conservative States & Area

18. Oklahoma City...Lowest Unemployment..Lowest COL....Professional Sports (OKC Thunder NBA Top 4 TEAM)..One of the best ZOO'S in the USA....Starting Construction of CBD Light Rail.....Infilling Their's CBD for a more urban feel.....Bricktown Canal...Chesapeake Arena...Devon Tower..
Big Name Entertainment.

19. Tulsa OK....Very Low Unemployment...Low COL....Professional Sports.
WNBA Tulsa Shock....Two of the top Museums in the USA-Gilcrease & Philbrooks....Tulsa River Park & Woodward Park some of America's top parks...BOK Arena World Class Designed Arena-Big Name Entainment....
Tulsa Hard Rock Hotel & Cafe-Big Name Entertainment..Three Other Casino's Big Name Entainment....Mabee Center Big Name Entainment..
Tulsa Performing Arts Center-Big Name Entainment...Broken Arrow Per-
forming Arts Center-Big Name Entertainment...Cain's Ballroom World Class Venue-Big Name Entainment...Brady Theater-Big Name Entainment.

20.Ft. Worth TX....Trendy city surrounded by very conservative area.
I like this list. I would add Milwaukee and replace Rochester with Duluth. Duluth just has more access to outdoorsy stuff similar to Seattle and Portland.
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:15 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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I would agree and many cities can house many more people. Detroit and Chicago along can hold 2 million people alone. Pittsburgh can hold around 400,000 more, Cleveland can hold 500,000 more etc. Honestly, an actual gain in population in Pittsburgh will be welcomed since the population hasn't increased since before my parents were born
Honestly, with the city's current boundaries, anything more than 500,000 would be a crowd. Pittsburgh is only 55 square miles, and 20 percent of that total has been classified as too steep for development, which leaves 44 square miles of developable land. Subtract all land occupied by commercial and industrial real estate, and you're likely left with no more than 30 square miles for residential areas, and probably less than that.

A population of 500,000 in 55 square miles would be 9,091 people per square mile. Limit those 500,000 to land that's developable, and the density would be 11,364 people per square mile. Assuming 30 square miles of land zoned as residential, the density in residential areas would be 16,667 people per square mile. That's pretty tight. Yeah, Pittsburgh's population was over 600,000 people after World War II, but the quality of life sucked back then, and pollution was only part of it. Overcrowding was a significant problem as well.
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:19 PM
 
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Hot New Trendy Cities List
1.Long Beach CA
2.Sacramento CA
3.Salt Lake City
4.Reno NV
5.Tucson AZ
6.Santa Fe & Albuquerque
7.Des Moines Iowa
8.Spokane WA
9.Omaha
This list is absurd. If any of your top 9 become the next trendy city, I will give you a thousand doll hairs.
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh PA
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Honestly, with the city's current boundaries, anything more than 500,000 would be a crowd. Pittsburgh is only 55 square miles, and 20 percent of that total has been classified as too steep for development, which leaves 44 square miles of developable land. Subtract all land occupied by commercial and industrial real estate, and you're likely left with no more than 30 square miles for residential areas, and probably less than that.

A population of 500,000 in 55 square miles would be 9,091 people per square mile. Limit those 500,000 to land that's developable, and the density would be 11,364 people per square mile. Assuming 30 square miles of land zoned as residential, the density in residential areas would be 16,667 people per square mile. That's pretty tight. Yeah, Pittsburgh's population was over 600,000 people after World War II, but the quality of life sucked back then, and pollution was only part of it. Overcrowding was a significant problem as well.
There area still areas that can easily be filled in: Pittsburgh, PA 15208 - Google Maps
As it sits right now I don't see overcrowding being an issue but I see your point given that 16,667 sounds packed like sardeens (similar to SF)
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:48 AM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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"Trendy" - Reel Big Fish


It's not so bad being trendy
Everyone who looks like me is my friend
Please don't hate me because I'm trendy
They're not gonna laugh at me again...


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Old 01-05-2012, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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This list is absurd. If any of your top 9 become the next trendy city, I will give you a thousand doll hairs.
Every one of those cities has distinct cultural advantages, plus the fact that they haven't been trendy cities in the past. Perfect "hipster" draw. I can say from experience that downtown Omaha and Des Moines are already pretty close to owned and operated by hipsters and young creative professionals.
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:25 AM
 
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Keep on hoping, but don't hold your breath. You're way too idealistic, what makes you think that KC will be able to keep "flying under the radar", especially if it's as great as you and others are saying it is?

Surely no one thought Austin would continue growing at such a fast rate, being the 4th largest city in TX, being in an overwhelmingly "red" state, and having some of the most arduous summer heat in the country.

You are basically saying the same thing that Austinites and maybe Seattle-ites said back before they became "media darlings" or whatever. Many of those same Austinites now moan non-stop about the changes that came with growth.

The question is how KC will handle a potentially heavy increase in population. That remains to be seen.

(An aside: Austin actually grew at a slower rate between 00-10 than it did between 90-10. I was surprised to see that.)
KC's cultural strengths get media attention once in a while but I doubt it will become a media darling with high growth that comes with it. 10%-15% growth is fine and given the 'Kansas' connotation that is a turnoff for many, KC wont attract excessively image conscious people who are all show with no substance. KC is doing OK attracting actual creators, not the wannabees and 'trendy consumers' who follow. In that sense KC's cultural growth is not a trend and likely won't become one... it's a slower, sustainable, manageable increase w/out the cultural deadbeat squatters.
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:37 AM
 
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Maybe a wildcard due to high crime, proneness to natural disasters, etc, but i would go with New Orleans.
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Old 01-05-2012, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN (USA)
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I'm not sure if it is the most liberal city in TN, Memphis has that reputation, but it could be either one. But I agree, most people I know who actually live in Nashville aren't big into country. They're more hipster. That's why I also said earlier in the thread that I think Nashville will be the next trendy city. People who live there want it to be trendy and urban, not country. I think it's mostly out of towners who make Nashville a "country city"
If it makes any sense, I tend to think of Nashville as more progressive particularly when it comes to adding amenities and social issues such as LGBT relations but Memphis tends to vote a bit more Democratic due to the demographics of the area. Nashville tends to be somewhat in the middle of the political spectrum to me with certain parts of the city like East Nashville obviously being way more liberal than others.

I guess I would call Nashville "trendy" in the sense that the city does try to "keep up with the Joneses" when it comes to adding amenities, reclaiming neighborhoods and attracting young professionals. I agree with you about the "country" stigma. It's a double-edged sword for Nashville because the city has to both play up it's heritage for tourism but also attract others who aren't particular interested in that scene.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Maybe a wildcard due to high crime, proneness to natural disasters, etc, but i would go with New Orleans.
That was my guess. It has a really good position right now. So much is going on downtown right now its unbelievable, really great time to be heading to New Orleans and I'm glad I'm moving there. People are already attracted to it so it just needs to get a handle on the crime and job market, the latter is getting better and better. Schools too, but the majority of young people looking to uproot and move don't have kids.

I believe its underrated in this category.
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