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Old 01-12-2012, 04:45 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Originally Posted by HouTXmetro View Post
"wag more" People just want to hate, the article is clearly speaking in terms of growth percentage and job openings. The article goes on to admit that houston doesn't have the most tech jobs. either way, it's good news for the Houston economy
did you try reading about their methodology at all? don't you think the wording was pretty off?
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:04 PM
 
Location: LBC
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did you try reading about their methodology at all? don't you think the wording was pretty off?
You obviously hate Texas.
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Houston has only added like 80,000 jobs in the past year.
only 80K? How many did your town create?

I don't think my old town had that many people
Everyone could have two jobs.

Not only that, but a ton of the jobs created in Houston are middle class jobs or higher.

check out the percentage middle class jobs growth in this graph:
A Recipe for Middle-Class Jobs - WSJ.com

surprised that Houston was able to stay on track with Austin. Also surprised that Dallas was dead last among the metros in the graph. The wall Street Journal must not like them.

Anyway the national average is 6% and Austin and Houston both were above 20%. That is excellent in my book
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:47 PM
 
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Are there any other cities that added more? You say that as if that number is lower than other cities.
To put things in perspective, here is the top 4 metros in numerical job growth from November 2010 to November 2011 (For some reason, the BLS only listed 4)

Source

1. Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, Texas (+87,900)
2. Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, Texas (+57,300)
3. Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, Mass.-N.H. (+50,400)
4. Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, Wash. (+46,100)

Although Houston has added the most jobs, the metro unemployment rate is still at 7.6% because the population growth is offsetting some of the jobs that were being added. As you said though, no other area has added more or has come close.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:33 PM
 
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Houston stomped Silicon Valley in 2011 tech job growth - Houston Business Journal



1. 149% Houston
2. 100% San Jose
3. 64% Philadelphia
4. 27% Dallas
5. 25% San Francisco
6. 20% Chicago
7. 16% Boston
8. 16% Los Angeles
9. 16% Seattle
10. 15% Atlanta

*Great to see Houston doing well, seems like the economic juggernaut is continues to grow and diversify it's economy. I was also impressed with Philadelphia at #3. Seems like rumors of their demise is greatly exaggerated.
You do realize that Houston is growing quickly because of a lack of a tech market. When you start at the bottom and grow a little it leads to big growth, while in somewhere developed like San Jose it is hard to have growth since it is so established.

It is similar to how developing countries have faster growth rates than developed countries. They had nothing so a little growth is a big deal.

Think of it this way. If you were previously 1 foot and you grow to 2 feet you just doubled in height. If you were 1000 feet and you grow 4 feet taller than you hardly grew at all.
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:22 PM
 
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The reference is one job search listing and the number of jobs using this site. Not sure how to read into that as a comparative stat whatsoever honestly . The job market in Houston is better than most but think this was purely PR (First for the site itself and then Hosuton ran with it; pretty poor journalist usage is Chron is attempting to be anything other than a cheerleader) and comparing to other places based on the actual metric is pretty irrelevant
YOU FAIL, the article did not even come from the Houston Chronicle. I found various sites which listed the same info that's not Houston related. Do they have a Houston Boosting Agenda as Well?

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Top 10 cities for tech jobs in 2012 | SmartPlanet

In Texas, you’ll not only find the leading city in the U.S. for cleantech, but you’ll also find the city with the largest growth in tech jobs from 2010 to 2011.

Move over Silicon Valley, it’s Houston.

At least according to CyberCoders, a worldwide recruiting firm, who ranked the cities with the largest job growth in the technology sector in the past year. The firm says Houston had a 145 percent increase in technology jobs from 2010 to 2011, while San Jose had a 100 percent growth in tech jobs......
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CyberCoders Reveals Houston Beats out San Jose's Silicon Valley as The Leading City for Technology Jobs in 2012 - MarketWatch

IRVINE, Calif., Jan 10, 2012 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CyberCoders, the leading worldwide recruiting firm that custom, cutting edge technology and top recruiters to match companies and people to find the optimum career fit, highlights the cities with the most technology jobs year-over-year from 2010 to 2011.

Houston, Texas is the leading city for energy and technology job growth, with a 145 percent increase in technology jobs from 2010. Following Houston is the Northern California city of San Jose and its esteemed tech stronghold, Silicon Valley, with a 100 percent increase in technology jobs.....
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More Tech Jobs In Houston Than San Jose, Says CyberCoders | techtaffy: (http://www.techtaffy.com/2012/01/more-tech-jobs-in-houston-than-san-jose-says-cybercoders/ - broken link)

More Tech Jobs In Houston Than San Jose, Says CyberCoders
January 10, 2012
[Techtaffy Newsdesk]

Houston, Texas, beat out Silicon Valley’s San Jose as the leading city for energy and technology job growth, says recruiting firm CyberCoders. Houston witnessed a 145 per cent increase in technology jobs from 2010 in last year. San Jose, is howeverv close on the heels, with a 100 per cent increase in technology jobs.

Rounding out CyberCoders’ top ten cities for technology jobs list is Seattle, Washington, and last, but not least, Atlanta, which saw a 15 per cent increase in technology jobs from 2010 to 2011.

Heidi Golledge (CEO and co-founder, CyberCoders): We were very intrigued by the findings, especially the fact that Houston beat San Jose for new technology job growth in 2011.
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:28 PM
 
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You do realize that Houston is growing quickly because of a lack of a tech market. When you start at the bottom and grow a little it leads to big growth, while in somewhere developed like San Jose it is hard to have growth since it is so established.

It is similar to how developing countries have faster growth rates than developed countries. They had nothing so a little growth is a big deal.

Think of it this way. If you were previously 1 foot and you grow to 2 feet you just doubled in height. If you were 1000 feet and you grow 4 feet taller than you hardly grew at all.
Really? I guess you failed to read the thread. How is coming in at #10 indicative of a lack of a Tech Industry in 2007? Granted it wasn't in the highest echelon of top paying Tech Insdustry but the aggregate numbers clearly show Houston didn't lack a Tech industry.......This is not even taking into account the recession which hit cities above it with the exception of Dallas hard.

http://www.milkeninstitute.org/pdf/N...mmry_Final.pdf (broken link)

Total number of Tech jobs by city 2007
1. Los Angeles 376,400
2. Washington DC 275,700
3. New York 262,000
4. San Jose 244,00
5. Seattle 226,300
6. Chicago 200,00
7. Dallas 187,700
8. Atlanta 164,100
9. Boston 163,600
10. Houston 151,700
11. Santa Ana-Irvine 147,000
12. Philadelphia 145,400
13. San Diego 136,400
14. Minneapolis 131,000
15. Phoenix 124,900

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Old 01-12-2012, 08:33 PM
 
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Really? I guess you failed to read the thread How is coming in at #10 indicative of a lack of a Tech Industry in 2007? Granted it was the in the highest echelon of top paying Tech Insdustry but the aggregate numbers clearly show Houston didn't lack a Tech industry.......This is not even taking to account the recession which hit cities above it with the exception of Dallas hard.

http://www.milkeninstitute.org/pdf/N...mmry_Final.pdf (broken link)

Total number of Tech jobs by city 2007
1. Los Angeles 376,400
2. Washington DC 275,700
3. New York 262,000
4. San Jose 244,00
5. Seattle 226,300
6. Chicago 200,00
7. Dallas 187,700
8. Atlanta 164,100
9. Boston 163,600
10. Houston 151,700
11. Santa Ana-Irvine 147,000
12. Philadelphia 145,400
13. San Diego 136,400
14. Minneapolis 131,000
15. Phoenix 124,900
You failed to understand what I am saying.

I am not bashing the Houston tech industry, but disputing the OP's claims that it is crushing silicon valley. The growth is impressive, but I would go so far to say that it is, "crushing" silicon valley.

For instance, Rwanda has a higher GDP growth rate than the US, but I wouldnt say it is crushing the US economy.

So calm down. I never said Houston lacked a tech industry.
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Really? I guess you failed to read the thread How is coming in at #10 indicative of a lack of a Tech Industry in 2007? Granted it was the in the highest echelon of top paying Tech Insdustry but the aggregate numbers clearly show Houston didn't lack a Tech industry.......This is not even taking to account the recession which hit cities above it with the exception of Dallas hard.

http://www.milkeninstitute.org/pdf/N...mmry_Final.pdf (broken link)

Total number of Tech jobs by city 2007

4. San Jose 244,00
10. Houston 151,700
that's it????


The way kidphilly, cry_havoc and Tmac were talking you would swear that SJ was at 500k and Houston was at 50.
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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You failed to understand what I am saying.

I am not bashing the Houston tech industry, but disputing the OP's claims that it is crushing silicon valley. The growth is impressive, but I would go so far to say that it is, "crushing" silicon valley.

For instance, Rwanda has a higher GDP growth rate than the US, but I wouldnt say it is crushing the US economy.

So calm down. I never said Houston lacked a tech industry.
The OP never said that and that was never printed in the article. What are you people reading???

Houston's tech industry seems to be more on par with Atlanta, Philly, Dallas ,etc

It's not like Houston is lagging far behind in this sector compared to the others.
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