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Old 01-20-2012, 01:07 PM
 
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Ohio has lower unemployment than Tennessee, a much more powerful economy, the best amusement parks (and the largest in the world), a variety of scenery from the Appalachian Mountains to Lake Erie to the Hocking Hills that have a ton of cliffs, waterfalls, great camping, etc. Ohio has four distinct seasons and summers (unlike in Tennessee) are not ridiculously hot. Cities in Tennessee regularly hit over 100 with high humidity. In fact, their summers are probably some of the worst in the US. Ohio has the NFL Hall of Fame, 3 large cities with different amenities between them. Ohio and Tennessee have similar low cost of living, so that's not a factor. Tennessee is MUCH more conservative overall, so if you like states that aren't completely backwards socially, Tennessee is not a good place to move. Both Memphis and Nashville have higher crime rates than Akron. Ohio has better health care and the OT lives fairly close to Cleveland, which has one of the best medical facilities in the nation. Ohio has better schools and a much better library system. Ohioans visit the library more per capita than any other state, and that's because we have the best system anywhere. More people have college degrees in Ohio.
This post is so full of untruths, I don't even know where to start.
I won't bother picking it apart bit by bit, but just to show how wrong you are.

Nashville's UE rate: 8.0
Akron's UE rate: 8.2
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Nashville is one of the fastest growing cities during the recession. The fact that Nashville also has an unemployment rate lower than the national average, while growing so fast, shows how strong our economy actually is.
Top 10 Metro Areas That Gained Population Faster During the Great Recession

By contrast, Akron & Cleveland are both losing population.
Census 2010 News | U.S. Census Bureau Delivers Ohio's 2010 Census Population Totals, Including First Look at Race and Hispanic Origin Data for Legislative Redistricting (http://2010.census.gov/news/releases/operations/cb11-cn72.html - broken link)


Nashville does not regularly have highs over 100. The average temp in July & Aug. are 89. According to weather.com, Nashville averages 9 degrees warmer than Akron.

Wedding Planner - Set the Date, Climate Comparision for Nashville, TN and Akron, OH

Nashville is one of the biggest health care hubs in the US. 350 health care companies are based here. These companies bring in 30 Billion of economic benefit to Nashville annually and employ 200,000 people. Vanderbilt & Vanderbilt's Children's Hospital are both ranked as top hospitals in the country by US News and World Report. Nashville has more than 30 hospitals in the area.

The Nashville area has one of the wealthiest cities in the country, Belle Meade, and one of the wealthiest counties in the country, Williamson County. BTW- Belle Meade is not in Williamson County, so these are 2 seperate areas of wealth.

And as for education, well I'll let one of your great Ohio institutions tell you about that:
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Education is a serious subject here. According to a study conducted by the Center for Regional Economic Issues at Case Western University, Nashville is one of the 10 most educated metropolitan areas in the United States.
Countrys's Best Resumes - Nashville, TN - Best Place to live, work & raise a family

Ouch, that had to hurt.

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Old 01-21-2012, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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This post is so full of untruths, I don't even know where to start.
I won't bother picking it apart bit by bit, but just to show how wrong you are.

Nashville's UE rate: 8.0
Akron's UE rate: 8.2
Moderator cut: link removed, linking to competitor sites is not allowed

Nashville is one of the fastest growing cities during the recession. The fact that Nashville also has an unemployment rate lower than the national average, while growing so fast, shows how strong our economy actually is.
Top 10 Metro Areas That Gained Population Faster During the Great Recession

By contrast, Akron & Cleveland are both losing population.
Census 2010 News | U.S. Census Bureau Delivers Ohio's 2010 Census Population Totals, Including First Look at Race and Hispanic Origin Data for Legislative Redistricting (http://2010.census.gov/news/releases/operations/cb11-cn72.html - broken link)


Nashville does not regularly have highs over 100. The average temp in July & Aug. are 89. According to weather.com, Nashville averages 9 degrees warmer than Akron.

Wedding Planner - Set the Date, Climate Comparision for Nashville, TN and Akron, OH

Nashville is one of the biggest health care hubs in the US. 350 health care companies are based here. These companies bring in 30 Billion of economic benefit to Nashville annually and employ 200,000 people. Vanderbilt & Vanderbilt's Children's Hospital are both ranked as top hospitals in the country by US News and World Report. Nashville has more than 30 hospitals in the area.

The Nashville area has one of the wealthiest cities in the country, Belle Meade, and one of the wealthiest counties in the country, Williamson County. BTW- Belle Meade is not in Williamson County, so these are 2 seperate areas of wealth.

And as for education, well I'll let one of your great Ohio institutions tell you about that:

Countrys's Best Resumes - Nashville, TN - Best Place to live, work & raise a family

Ouch, that had to hurt.
Where to even begin?

You compare Nashville to a metro area of 700,000. Let's compare it to regions comparable to the city itself. Take for instance Cleveland and Columbus. Cleveland is at 6.9% and Columbus is at 6.6%... Nashville is at 7.2%. Let's bring in other large cities into the mix. Cincinnati is at 7.8% while that mess of a city called Memphis is at 9.2%.

Unemployment Rates for Large Metropolitan Areas

Metro area and state unemployment rate numbers mean nothing at this point. So many people are dropping out of the work place and give up looking for jobs, that is why you see so many numbers way down. When hard-hit states like Michigan and Nevada started praising the fact that their unemployment rates were falling drastically, something was up. But if you want to talk about them, Ohio is at 8.1% while Tennessee's new rate is at 8.7%. One is below the national average while the other is above it... Oh, and for the record, on the I-75 corridor, Ohio has the lowest unemployment rate of all those states. From Florida to Canada...

Ohio is home to 27 fortune 500 companies... Tennessee is home to 8

Fortune 500 2011: States: Ohio Companies - FORTUNE on CNNMoney.com

Fortune 500 2011: States: Tennessee Companies - FORTUNE on CNNMoney.com

If you notice, Ohio's are a lot more powerful as well. Procter and Gamble alone is the world's largest distributor of home products. I won't go into any of the others that are internationally known names.

You want to talk about the medical field? Cleveland is actually building its medical mart. Last I checked Nashville's hadn't even broken ground. That's not to say Nashville doesn't have an amazing healthcare field. But you are completely writing off Cleveland which is one of the most powerful cities in the world in that department. The Cleveland Clinic and University Hospitals alone are two giants you do not mess with. That is one reason Cleveland was chosen for a medical mart to showcase medical technologies. Cleveland's is actually getting built, though.

Cleveland and Columbus both have showed extremely strong signs of growth in this recession while having numbers below the national averages the entire recession and seeing construction boom like crazy. Cleveland is not only building the medical mart, but attached to it will be the new convention center.

Cleveland Medical Mart & Convention Center

Cleveland is also building new hotels all over the city to welcome all the new visitor growth (a new 27 million dollar hotel broke ground yesterday for instance), has the second largest performing arts district in the country, one of the nation's "big 5" orchestras, a national park, an art museum that not only ranks highly nationally, but internationally as well. Not to mention the art museum is going through a $300 million dollar expansion. The Flats East Bank, the new aquarium opened today on the west bank, the new casino, and all the gentrification going on in the city neighborhoods, etc.

Cleveland is home to Case Western University, a university known highly for its research, and also helping fuel University Hospitals huge growth. Let alone the fact that Cleveland is a leader in the bio tech field. Billions are being spent on UH new hospitals that are popping up all over the University Circle neighborhood. Good luck finding a neighborhood like that in Nashville.

I don't need to speak for the Cleveland Clinic. It is world renowned and we have kings and queens come in for surgery. Go past their buildings and you would think they weren't hospitals because to add to their world class reputation, they build world class facilities.

You want to talk about education? Case Western is like Vanderbilt, extremely high quality in education. After that, Tennessee can compete with Ohio State in University of Tennessee. But Tennessee doesn't have universities that match University of Cincinnati, University of Dayton, and Miami of Ohio. Or what about Oberlin, Denison, etc?

I am just responding to your post because I saw major positives that you found, but lacked any knowledge on Ohio's points in your regard. I really like Tennessee, I have a lot of good friends from my hometown in Indianapolis living in Nashville and have had a lot of good times down there. I just have a tendency to call posters out, my bad.

Ouch, that had to hurt.

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Old 01-21-2012, 02:26 PM
 
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Traveler,
Let's review the thread. The OP specifically asked for Akron vs. Nashville, I didn't pick those cities out of the air:

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Specifically Akron, OH vs. Nashville, TN. !
People were sharing some positive things for both states, and then your
fellow Ohioan started bashing TN for no reason. Here's one example:

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So you like everything fried and music about how your dog died, and you think those are pros for leaving to Tennessee?
I was not the only that noticed this, as shown in this post from a person from another state:


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you seem awfully angry that people prefer TN to OH, curious.
I repsonded, showed how he was wrong, and in doing so, used a quote from a respected Ohio institution. That's why I said "Ouch, that had hurt."

I wasn't doing a total comparision of OH and TN. BTW- TN is considerably smaller than OH, less than 7 million people as opposed to 11.5 million in OH. Memphis has some problems, no doubt. But it also has some pretty amazing things like St. Jude and Fed Ex. Nashville, Chattanooga, and Knoxville all have UE rates lower than the national average and higher growth.

I wasn't bashing OH. I've spent a considerable amount of time in Ohio, most of it in Cincy, but I spent a month or so in Columbus, a few weeks in Oxford, a few days in Youngstown and a few days in Athens to speak at a conference. I don't have any problems with Ohio. I do have a problem with obnoxious posters from any state, which is why I responded to jbcmh. To "call someone out," you would need to first read the thread. Your response was a non-sequitor that didn't answer the OP's question, the obnoxious Ohio poster, or me.

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Old 01-21-2012, 06:01 PM
 
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Quite often property taxes in TN are 1/5 as much as OH.

I know what you mean. I have friends in the Cincinnati area who are paying $6000 a year in property taxes for a modest size home and yard.
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Old 01-21-2012, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Didn't know TN had an aquarium. My kids have never been to an aquarium before so that would be a nice adventure. Does Ohio have and aquarium?
Cleveland's opened TODAY!

Greater Cleveland Aquarium
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Nashville has a pretty darn impressive public library in my opinion.
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Good to know, thank you for sharing.
OK, this isn't even comparable. Ohio rocks in Public Libraries (note the Ohio-Tennessee comparison):

All the Stars, State by State

Cleveland and Cuyahoga County (and Columbus) rank the BEST in the Nation...all three being 5-star libraries (Nashville zero stars?): Cuyahoga County Public Library leads nation in per-capita visits: Michael K. McIntyre's Tipoff | cleveland.com

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Old 01-21-2012, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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Traveler,
Let's review the thread. The OP specifically asked for Akron vs. Nashville, I didn't pick those cities out of the air:



People were sharing some positive things for both states, and then your
fellow Ohioan started bashing TN for no reason. Here's one example:



I was not the only that noticed this, as shown in this post from a person from another state:




I repsonded, showed how he was wrong, and in doing so, used a quote from a respected Ohio institution. That's why I said "Ouch, that had hurt."

I wasn't doing a total comparision of OH and TN. BTW- TN is considerably smaller than OH, less than 7 million people as opposed to 11.5 million in OH. Memphis has some problems, no doubt. But it also has some pretty amazing things like St. Jude and Fed Ex. Nashville, Chattanooga, and Knoxville all have UE rates lower than the national average and higher growth.

I wasn't bashing OH. I've spent a considerable amount of time in Ohio, most of it in Cincy, but I spent a month or so in Columbus, a few weeks in Oxford, a few days in Youngstown and a few days in Athens to speak at a conference. I don't have any problems with Ohio. I do have a problem with obnoxious posters from any state, which is why I responded to jbcmh. To "call someone out," you would need to first read the thread. Your response was a non-sequitor that didn't answer the OP's question, the obnoxious Ohio poster, or me.

Ok, but why would you go to that level and start bashing too? Because what you are referring to with the one poster is the exact same thing you did as well, whether you want to admit to it or not.

I did read the post as well as the thread, and kiwifruit has posted in the Ohio forum so I know where they are coming from. In fact, I just got back from two weeks in New Zealand where the poster is from and think they should move back to that amazing country.

Let's not play woe is me and try to be innocent because your stooped down to that level as well.

BTW, this is city data, you will find obnoxious posters from every state. Not that I find any of the Tennessee forumers in this thread to be obnoxious, but you will find it on this site.
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Old 01-22-2012, 12:03 AM
 
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Ok, but why would you go to that level and start bashing too? Because what you are referring to with the one poster is the exact same thing you did as well, whether you want to admit to it or not.

Let's not play woe is me and try to be innocent because your stooped down to that level as well.
Except she wasn't "bashing". Did you take offense to her post? She was only correcting that particular poster. You were just boosting Ohio.
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Old 01-22-2012, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Seattle now, Portland originally
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So you like everything fried and music about how your dog died, and you think those are pros for leaving to Tennessee?
So you'd rather have some whiny teenage emo kids from the suburbs sing "cut my wrist and black my eyes"? Take a look in the mirror why not?
And yes, I love fried food, I don't gain weight easily so it doesn't matter for me anyway.
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Old 01-22-2012, 02:30 PM
 
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I would normally go with the whole "everyone has their own opinions, perspectives, preferences"....


but Ohio sucks. Plain and simple. I'd rather live north, south, east, or west of Ohio.
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