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Old 01-25-2012, 09:14 PM
 
Location: MN
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The USA is the best nation at destroying the enviornment and making people believe everyone should aspire to having a huge McMansion and a four car garage
I don't believe that. Of course, you're probably one of those people think "Everyone" is stupid and cannot make decisions on their own. Quit the anarchist, conspirator phase that you're going through. It's immature.

Go talk to China about destroying the environment.

China's Pollution Is So Insane You Can See It From Space

Or Brazil

Habitat Destruction in the Amazon Rainforest - Dennis "The Great"

Or India

» River pollution affects millions ! By – Roger Choate. gangajal blog

Or Mexico

Environmental pre-contingency lifted in Mexico City

I'll be the first one to admit: The Unite States isn't exactly the queen bee when it comes to taking care of the environment. But you must remember the environmental movement in this country has hardly been around. It's been since about the 70's when Nixon created the Environmental Protection Agency. United States Environmental Protection Agency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. I mean look at this picture from 1969 1969: Cuyahoga River Catches Fire : TreeHugger.

Big Countries tend to be big time polluters. That's pretty obvious. The US still struggles in recycling, contrary to popular belief that its' uber-succuessful. The US also still struggles in emissions, pretty much because there are more cars than people.

Curiosity "Top 10 Ways Man Is Destroying the Environment"
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Old 01-25-2012, 11:12 PM
 
Location: New Orleans
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I don't believe that. Of course, you're probably one of those people think "Everyone" is stupid and cannot make decisions on their own. Quit the anarchist, conspirator phase that you're going through. It's immature.

Go talk to China about destroying the environment.

China's Pollution Is So Insane You Can See It From Space

Or Brazil

Habitat Destruction in the Amazon Rainforest - Dennis "The Great"

Or India

» River pollution affects millions ! By – Roger Choate. gangajal blog

Or Mexico

Environmental pre-contingency lifted in Mexico City

I'll be the first one to admit: The Unite States isn't exactly the queen bee when it comes to taking care of the environment. But you must remember the environmental movement in this country has hardly been around. It's been since about the 70's when Nixon created the Environmental Protection Agency. United States Environmental Protection Agency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. I mean look at this picture from 1969 1969: Cuyahoga River Catches Fire : TreeHugger.

Big Countries tend to be big time polluters. That's pretty obvious. The US still struggles in recycling, contrary to popular belief that its' uber-succuessful. The US also still struggles in emissions, pretty much because there are more cars than people.

Curiosity "Top 10 Ways Man Is Destroying the Environment"
Interestingly enough, you can pretty well predict how polluted a country is by how developed it is. Low or high= low pollution. Medium development= highest level of pollution. However, the U.S. bucks the trend in that we are at a very high level of development but still have a large pollution poblem. We're not exactly being the leader we always claim to be when it comes to environmental issues; we're actually behind the curve.
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Old 01-29-2012, 02:58 AM
 
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Imprisonment
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Old 01-29-2012, 03:00 AM
 
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I'm not sure if it's been said before but... build skyscrapers.

Show me a building as impressive as the Empire State Building outside of the US.
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Old 01-29-2012, 03:34 AM
 
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Going by "Nationmaster", which I don't think we're allowed to link to, the US is top ranked in the following that are good or at least arguably good.

Business efficiency
Innovation
Technology
Number of Top-500 Universities
And I think it said musical exports, but I might be confused there.

Other sources I've read indicate the US is quite high in productivity, although Ireland, Luxembourg, and Norway (at least) look to be above us.

Average annual hours actually worked per worker

On the negative we tend to be high in prisoners and "broken homes."

From what I recall reading of polls Americans are unusually optimistic, individualistic, hardworking, and Protestant. As I'm a particularly lazy Catholic I'm not saying I fit that or that most Americans precisely do. It's just being an "optimistic hardworking person who attends a Protestant church" is more likely to happen in the US than most anywhere.

I don't know if this is unique to the US but I would say Americans do seem to think of our own greatness, either that we're greatly good or great bad, a good deal of the time. That it many ways we're kind of middle-rung maybe bothers some of us more than being worst or best. Our human-rights violations pale beside that of Sudan or Saudi. In killing indigenous people our history is not indisputably worse than that Australia or Chile or whatever. As imperialists the British and French were way bigger in all kinds of ways. Our own existence is due to the British (creating the colonies) and French (aiding our independence) Empires. Several small South Pacific nations are more obese than us. By the standards of the Western Hemisphere our murder rate isn't even that extraordinary. In tests of math and science we emphasize all the nations that do better than our kids, but ignore that we often come out above enough that we're really near average. (Although on math we look below average according to PISA, but reading and science? Roughly average)

In PISA Test, Top Scores From Shanghai Stun Experts - NYTimes.com

There are areas where the US is a large mediocre nation, not particularly good or evil. However that idea is maybe the least appealing. Possibly many nations though want to think of themselves as best or worst rather than accepting areas they're medium.
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Old 01-29-2012, 04:17 AM
 
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Actually.. countries with a big Western European influence, especially European countries, tend to be the ones to see themselves the least realistically.

We're also the most openly critical of our own country and its leaders.
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Old 01-29-2012, 06:53 PM
 
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I don't believe that. Of course, you're probably one of those people think "Everyone" is stupid and cannot make decisions on their own. Quit the anarchist, conspirator phase that you're going through. It's immature.

Go talk to China about destroying the environment.

China's Pollution Is So Insane You Can See It From Space

Or Brazil

Habitat Destruction in the Amazon Rainforest - Dennis "The Great"

Or India

» River pollution affects millions ! By – Roger Choate. gangajal blog

Or Mexico

Environmental pre-contingency lifted in Mexico City

I'll be the first one to admit: The Unite States isn't exactly the queen bee when it comes to taking care of the environment. But you must remember the environmental movement in this country has hardly been around. It's been since about the 70's when Nixon created the Environmental Protection Agency. United States Environmental Protection Agency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. I mean look at this picture from 1969 1969: Cuyahoga River Catches Fire : TreeHugger.

Big Countries tend to be big time polluters. That's pretty obvious. The US still struggles in recycling, contrary to popular belief that its' uber-succuessful. The US also still struggles in emissions, pretty much because there are more cars than people.

Curiosity "Top 10 Ways Man Is Destroying the Environment"
The United States is the worst at destroying the enviornment because our country is the country which likes to sprawl, as I said in my prior post, with big McMansions.

What I cannot stand are when people get so offended if a fellow American dare criticize his own country. Apart of being a good American is to show the bad parts of America so that we can improve ourselves. There is no reason to call someone immature for expressing their criticism of America or tell them to leave the country just because they disagree with someone.

Many Americans do not like being told when their lifestyle of suburban sprawl which destroys natural habitat is unsustainable. I understand this offends a lot of people but it is not wrong to express that. It is NOT just pollution in the air and water, it is development which consumes land and turns it from otherwise productive farmland or wilderness and into developed suburbs, strip malls, and office parks. A highway cuts an ecosystem in half, and endless sprawl ensures animals cannot migrate and America constantly builds onto wilderness and greenfield. China and Mexico may do these things too, but to a much lesser extent than the US does. China at least tries to put their citizens into dense cities to the best of their ability rather than let them spread out with auto-centric suburbs like the US does. Many enviornmentalists tend to want to ignore the bad ecological effects of sprawl, which I consider to be destroying the enviornment which it is. Brazil may destroy the rainforest, but barely anyone in America bats an eye when we destroy native grassland which is just as important to build suburban subdivisions. While pollution is bad, our suburban lifestyle in the US is probably WORSE than air pollution because we actually clear cut, pave, and DESTORY wilderness to build our houses and roads, which cut ecosystems in half amongst many other things.

I am simply telling facts and I am sorry if some of you do not agree with me but that is no reason to get angry at me about it. The OP asked for what America is best at doing and I gave my best opinion which I know about to the best of my ability without any malice towards anyone.

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Old 01-29-2012, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Food. Such variety and diversity. And the portion sizes
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Old 01-29-2012, 07:08 PM
 
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We're the best in the world at throwing, catching, and running a football--although we might need the occasional foreigner raised on soccer to kick our field goals...
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Old 01-29-2012, 07:19 PM
 
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The United States is the worst at destroying the enviornment because our country is the country which likes to sprawl, as I said in my prior post, with big McMansions.

What I cannot stand are when people get so offended if a fellow American dare criticize his own country. Apart of being a good American is to show the bad parts of America so that we can improve ourselves. There is no reason to call someone immature for expressing their criticism of America or tell them to leave the country just because they disagree with someone.

Many Americans do not like being told when their lifestyle of suburban sprawl which destroys natural habitat is unsustainable. I understand this offends a lot of people but it is not wrong to express that. It is NOT just pollution in the air and water, it is development which consumes land and turns it from otherwise productive farmland or wilderness and into developed suburbs, strip malls, and office parks. A highway cuts an ecosystem in half, and endless sprawl ensures animals cannot migrate and America constantly builds onto wilderness and greenfield. China and Mexico may do these things too, but to a much lesser extent than the US does. China at least tries to put their citizens into dense cities to the best of their ability rather than let them spread out with auto-centric suburbs like the US does. Many enviornmentalists tend to want to ignore the bad ecological effects of sprawl, which I consider to be destroying the enviornment which it is. Brazil may destroy the rainforest, but barely anyone in America bats an eye when we destroy native grassland which is just as important to build suburban subdivisions. While pollution is bad, our suburban lifestyle in the US is probably WORSE than air pollution because we actually clear cut, pave, and DESTORY wilderness to build our houses and roads, which cut ecosystems in half amongst many other things.

I am simply telling facts and I am sorry if some of you do not agree with me but that is no reason to get angry at me about it. The OP asked for what America is best at doing and I gave my best opinion which I know about to the best of my ability without any malice towards anyone.
A lot of the things people try to say are so "American" are in fact European.

Take a look at places like Malaysia or India or South Africa sometime, for just a few examples.
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