U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 04-03-2013, 09:27 PM
 
203 posts, read 240,251 times
Reputation: 252

Advertisements

I think the main reason Americans don't travel overseas as much is simply life choices. We choose to value having a large house, 3-4 cars for a household, having a wife and 2-4 kids, and all the expenses that go with it. Most importantly, is that no matter how much many American may complain about their jobs, most do their job because they love it. People love their jobs so much that they would rather work than be at home or travel. When people complain about jobs, it is normally about the company, pay, or some benefit. It is rarely about the actual job itself.

In Europe, most people live in apartments and have few if any cars. They don't take out huge mortgages for houses usually and three kids would be considered a huge family. Marriage isn't even a real institution in most of Europe. The parents normally aren't married and often don't live together. Thus there isn't a need or desire for large living space. On top of all this, the govt maintains public housing that is a lot nicer than the American counterpart. The govt has generous welfare benefits. Even if one were to go into credit card debt funding vacations, credit scores don't mean as much in Europe and the generous welfare serves as a buffer to crushing bill payments. You don't have as much to worry about if you spend the money you do make. It is a lot more difficult to be evicted from an apartment as well. But just as in America, this is the choice they have made. It isn't inherently better or worse.

Another big factor is the tradition of gap years. In America, young people go from high to college to work. Most don't take a break in between. In other countries, it is the tradition for a few years when young to go travel the world before starting college and work.

I think that despite all the globalization, there is no one set way people live. People aren't robots. Each country has a unique culture. I think it is a cultural difference more than anything else that causes people to wonder why Americans don't travel overseas as often.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-04-2013, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Bellingham, WA
9,745 posts, read 14,177,403 times
Reputation: 14796
Quote:
Originally Posted by FBF View Post
My time off was never paid leave.


My workplace is stingy (and I wish that it was federally mandated) but alas, even I still can do it despite not being rich.

It does not have to be two weeks, it can be a week in one country visiting one city or the surrounding area.

One can start there if it is your first time, but it is up to you.
I wasn't even talking about paid leave. I've known very few people whose employers allowed more than two weeks of vacation per year, and in most cases they couldn't take those two weeks in a row (because their absence would have been a disaster for everyone else). Currently I have enough money saved that I could probably spend a month in Europe without pay, but my employer would tell me not to bother coming back! (They wouldn't say the same for two weeks, but my job would be a nightmare when I came back!)

And I'm sure one could visit Europe with only a week, but it seems like it would be difficult and one wouldn't get to experience enough. My brother went to Great Britain for seven days a few years ago, and after writing off all the time he spent getting there and back, he spent about four days not flying or waiting in airports. Plus, maybe it's not like this for anyone else, but I would have to have an extra day to recharge at home before returning to work. But I also have an extremely physically demanding job, so I realize that might not apply to most people.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2013, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Seattle
6,945 posts, read 9,042,776 times
Reputation: 3783
The two things I hate most about USA are medical benefits and vacation time. I don't like to be a slave to my employer because I like to go on vacations at least twice a year. This is why vacation time should be government mandated because quality of life gets better. Americans live to work and Europeans work to live
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2013, 09:28 AM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
14,800 posts, read 17,705,729 times
Reputation: 9029
Quote:
Originally Posted by Botev1912 View Post
The two things I hate most about USA are medical benefits and vacation time. I don't like to be a slave to my employer because I like to go on vacations at least twice a year.
Okay, why army you telling us this? lol
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2013, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Seattle
6,945 posts, read 9,042,776 times
Reputation: 3783
Because I am free to say whatever I want. It is your choice to read it or not.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2013, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
3,093 posts, read 4,134,076 times
Reputation: 3117
1. We don't get as much time off.
2. We aren't surrounded by a billion other interesting countries like in Europe.

3. Most importantly, there's so much to do and see here. As a Texan, I can go to Chicago or New York for much cheaper, stay for longer, have a great time, and still feel like I'm in a completely different country. Hell, in Chicago I don't even need to adjust my watch. Not only that, but I can do those trips in less days. I can spend a labor day weekend in NY or Chicago. I would need a week at least for a European vacation. And that's the bare minimum.


Trust me, I'd love to go all over the world. London, Paris, Rome, Greece, Hong Kong are all on my list. But unfortunately, it's just not that feasible to do very often.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2013, 09:45 AM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
14,800 posts, read 17,705,729 times
Reputation: 9029
Quote:
Originally Posted by Botev1912 View Post
Because I am free to say whatever I want. It is your choice to read it or not.
It's very random and off topic though.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2013, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Marquette, Michigan
88 posts, read 75,962 times
Reputation: 95
Saying that we don't want to travel overseas is pig ignorant. It's incredibly expensive for an American to cross either ocean with any regularity. And we're not terribly impressed by Europeans saying that they travel more because they have passports. That would be like me, a Michigander, needing documentation to travel to Wisconsin or Ohio. Whoopty-frickin-doo, not impressive at all.

From a US citizen who's travelled on more continents regularly than an extremely high percentage of Europeans...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2013, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Seattle
6,945 posts, read 9,042,776 times
Reputation: 3783
Quote:
Originally Posted by iNviNciBL3 View Post
It's very random and off topic though.
it's actually not. It is related to why Americans don't travel overseas - because they don't get vacation time.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2013, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Seattle
6,945 posts, read 9,042,776 times
Reputation: 3783
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomalak View Post
That would be like me, a Michigander, needing documentation to travel to Wisconsin or Ohio. Whoopty-frickin-doo, not impressive at all.
Europeans don't need passports to travel in the European Union. They only need IDs. So it's the same.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top