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Old 04-23-2012, 12:03 PM
 
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Maybe I'm just old but I don't recall all of this "guido" you speak of. Unless it's tourist season and they come from downstate.

In fact a lot of people in upstate NY claim that Rochester and Buffalo both have a Midwestern vibe to them as compared to other northeastern cities. Great lake shore, flat lands surrounding them, lots of farm on said surrounding land, etc.

I also don't remember Rochester being so heavily Italian. I remember the Puerto Ricans and blacks, but not the Italian side.
Rochester has one of the larger Italian populations both in raw numbers and percentage wise in the country. I find it odd that you did not notice this. It is one of the first things people from the south and midwest mention about the people around here....and the lands surround the area aren't flat, we are close to several ski resorts, the eastern suburbs are very hilly in places...
I also wouldn't call farm land surrounding the area to be a midwestern thing. Farmland is everywhere in the country.
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Rochester has one of the larger Italian populations both in raw numbers and percentage wise in the country. I find it odd that you did not notice this. It is one of the first things people from the south and midwest mention about the people around here....and the lands surround the area aren't flat, we are close to several ski resorts, the eastern suburbs are very hilly in places...
I also wouldn't call farm land surrounding the area to be a midwestern thing. Farmland is everywhere in the country.
The type of crops grown is a determinant, and farmland is more extensive in the 12 Midwest states than anywhere else in the country...it's called the Breadbasket for a reason. And as far as large italian populations, many Midwestern cities have that...among them Chicago, Cleveland, and St. Louis.
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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I get that Charleston is much different than the northern cities mentioned, but does not make those northern cities similar to eachother.
They are more similar to each other than either are to Charleston. Enough said.
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:45 PM
 
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They are more similar to each other than either are to Charleston. Enough said.
well yea... but that's not saying much. Charleston is completely different.
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:55 PM
 
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The type of crops grown is a determinant, and farmland is more extensive in the 12 Midwest states than anywhere else in the country...it's called the Breadbasket for a reason. And as far as large italian populations, many Midwestern cities have that...among them Chicago, Cleveland, and St. Louis.
Those three cities along with places like Youngstown are exceptions to the rules and gives them something in common with the northeast with the italian populations. But if you look at the percentage as a whole, they don't compare to the northeastern cities mentioned. If you look at Cleveland, it roughly has the same number of Italian American population as Rochester... But Rochester has less than half the population of the Cleveland metro area.
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Old 04-24-2012, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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Rochester has one of the larger Italian populations both in raw numbers and percentage wise in the country. I find it odd that you did not notice this. It is one of the first things people from the south and midwest mention about the people around here....and the lands surround the area aren't flat, we are close to several ski resorts, the eastern suburbs are very hilly in places...
I also wouldn't call farm land surrounding the area to be a midwestern thing. Farmland is everywhere in the country.
Sorry dude, I am from the southern tier in the Appalachian foothills. The areas around Rochester are FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT. There is some minor roll, some scattered tiny ridges, but for the most part it is flat. In my opinion it looks like Michigan.

Get up on the Allegheny plateau or out into the Mohawk valley and then we start talking real hills and drastic roll.
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Old 04-24-2012, 03:05 PM
 
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i would say like Illinois , Wisconsin , Minneasota ,Ohio , indiana , Michigan
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Old 04-24-2012, 03:07 PM
 
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Sorry dude, I am from the southern tier in the Appalachian foothills. The areas around Rochester are FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT. There is some minor roll, some scattered tiny ridges, but for the most part it is flat. In my opinion it looks like Michigan.

Get up on the Allegheny plateau or out into the Mohawk valley and then we start talking real hills and drastic roll.
The west side yes... But the east side. No way. How much time have you spent here? Because it sounds like you are not very familiar with the area, no offense. We have three ski resorts in the metro area. Can't be that flat.
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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The west side yes... But the east side. No way. How much time have you spent here? Because it sounds like you are not very familiar with the area, no offense. We have three ski resorts in the metro area. Can't be that flat.
I'm pretty familiar with he Henrietta area and the surrounding country side. I'm also a topographical map nerd.
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Old 04-25-2012, 01:29 AM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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i would say like Illinois , Wisconsin , Minneasota ,Ohio , indiana , Michigan
Minnesota And you're correct if we are sticking strictly to the Northwest Ordinance. But Iowa and Missouri have been considered Midwestern for over a century...same with the rest of the Great Plains states...the Census Bureau's definition of the Midwest is pretty accurate for the most part.
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