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View Poll Results: Which region would be most prosperous on its own?
Northeast 77 44.00%
Midwest 18 10.29%
South 35 20.00%
West 45 25.71%
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Old 03-05-2012, 02:46 PM
 
Location: The City
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each region would develop those, no biggie.
Resources and Trade sustains countries.

While this convo is mostly silly; did you realize it is far easier to refine, and sell oil under new companies than it is to develop new technologies

Probably far more portable than nearly any other industry actually; though the refining capcity is greatest in the South today but exists in other locales
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Old 03-05-2012, 02:52 PM
 
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While this convo is mostly silly; did you realize it is far easier to refine, and sell oil under new companies than it is to develop new technologies

Probably far more portable than nearly any other industry actually; though the refining capcity is greatest in the South today but exists in other locales
the convo is silly, but happening anyway.

as for ease of refining, there is a possibility but not a likelihood. There is a reason that the Gulf coast is stronger in that area, and a reason why it is likely to stay that way. It is the same reason why these new technologies are more likely to move to the South.

So it is far more likely that the South will start producing its own cancer meds than The NE would suddenly start producing more oil than the Gulf coast.
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Old 03-05-2012, 03:06 PM
 
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the convo is silly, but happening anyway.

as for ease of refining, there is a possibility but not a likelihood. There is a reason that the Gulf coast is stronger in that area, and a reason why it is likely to stay that way. It is the same reason why these new technologies are more likely to move to the South.

So it is far more likely that the South will start producing its own cancer meds than The NE would suddenly start producing more oil than the Gulf coast.
Well I actually would disagree with this assessment but suppose we can agree to disagree.


The refining technology already exisits in the NE; the same technological capacity and more importantly people who perform it in other areas are not present in the South in many regards but again all this is silly in the first place
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:52 PM
 
Location: New York
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And the West would be nothing without it's cities. And the south would be nothing without it's cities. What's your point? This is not a "what if" question, it's an "as it stands now" question.

Everyone talking about population growth as a reason for the south to be more prosperous, as shown with the latest housing crisis, growth is not a good thing.

Going by the amount of Fortune 500 companies:

1. Northeast
2. West (including Southwest/Texas)
3. South
4. Midwest

You completely misinterpreted my words. The only reason people would think the NE would do well is because of NYC's well-standing. If they didn't have the kind of markets they do, it would probably be nothing. Like another user said, NY is number one with fresh cabbage but what about other agriculture? There are very little farms in NY, compared to the West where most of our fruits & veggies come from. There are also other cities in the West - LA, San Francisco, San Diego, Vegas, Seattle. How many big cities can you list in the NE without looking it up?
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:05 PM
 
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Dairy products - State Agricultural Production Rankings from StuffAboutStates.com

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Old 03-05-2012, 10:12 PM
 
Location: IN
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I'd rank the Northeast last. They are geographically poor, and the expensive and unsustainable "blue state" model will chase producers to other places rather than help retain them. Progressive policies are anti-prosperity and anti-freedom. If you are in a left leaning area, it is better to be around pro-freedom liberals than anti-freedom progressives, especially if you are a small business who can't afford to bribe government.

The Western United States is natural resource rich and contains the best geography, climates, and farmlands in America. If the west could avoid the unsustainable and destructive govt. that currently dominates California, it would be the most prosperous.
It is a myth that the best farmlands are in the western US and the products grown there have had good marketing PR like potatoes and apples. Also, the commercial level of agriculture will become unsustainable in the West once water supply and drought concerns get worse with warming temperatures.
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Among the four traditional regions (Northeast, South, Midwest and West), which one do you think would be the most prosperous if it were its own nation, completely sovereign from the rest of the U.S. and world?

I would say that the Northeast would be the most prosperous on its own, even though it's the smallest region. I mean, there's tons of agricultural farm land to supply food (despite what people may think), plenty of established utility services, a wealth of financial and banking institutions, and has the best public school systems compared to the rest of America. Healthcare is top notch and the country's best doctors are in New England and NYC. It also has the most progressive politics. All northeastern states are blue states. No other region in the country can say the same. The Northeast is also a gateway to and from the rest of the world, particularly NYC. The only major thing it lacks in is auto industry, so I guess they would have to trade with the Midwest lol.

Which U.S. region do you think would be most prosperous as a sovereign nation on its own?
And what will the "progressive" northeast do for business (and the taxes those businesses pay) when they all leave for less regulatory, less taxing other regions? I think they'll tax their "progressive" residents more to pay for their "progressive" programs (and their inner cities) to pick up the slack.

You want fuel to heat your "progressive" homes and "progressive" schools, put gas in your cabs, get food delivered to stores in your cities, run your trains and buses and allow you fly in to vacation in "our" country, you gotta come to us...and it's going to cost you. I just don't see any oil fields, coal mines (will be all gone by the time you are established thanks to the administration) or electric tractor trailers delivering the goods to your "progressive" country.

There's plenty of coast line so we don't need your ports. We'll just establish new ones. So whadda ya got that the rest of us need? What do you have to trade in the "progressive" northeast? Maple syrup?
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:51 PM
 
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Coal
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Also a fair amount of oil and natural gas reserves in PA actually Macrcellus shale is huge

But to the above post really just really

Also; just a thought for you but why would a NE have to buy oil from another current US region? Just curious

But the education being recieved is very good and promotes innovation etc.

Lastly you do realize the NE and West Coast pay more taxes on the whole then they get back. They fund themselves now so-to-speak why would this be different
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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I think it would be a tie between the west and the south

Both have plenty of farmland (though the south has a much better water supply) both already have HUGE economies. The south would be great trading partners with Latin America and the west would be great with Asia. Both are also huge tourist attractions. (California, Nevada in the west, Florida in the south)

I could see the NE becoming good trading partners with Europe. They dont need a constant growing season to survive, and thanks to technology, agriculture is a lot smarter than in the 1700s, so it would be sustainable if done correctly imo. The NE would still be a finance and trade powerhouse

I think the Midwest has the least going. As another poster stated, landlocked countries dont do well. It would definitely be an agrarian economy. BUT it would still have access to the rest of the world via the Mississippi River, the Great Lakes and the St Lawrence River in Canada eh?
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Old 03-06-2012, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Coal
Total Agricultural Receipts Ranked by State from StuffAboutStates.com



Also a fair amount of oil and natural gas reserves in PA actually Macrcellus shale is huge
PA definitely has a large number of coal and natural gas reserves, but it isn't unique; at least from 2010 data, it seems that WY has the most coal reserves, followed by WV, IL, KY, ND rounding out the top 5. TX, WY, OK, CO and LA appear to have the largest natural gas reserves, as of 2009. I think each region is pretty prosperous with coal reserves, with a bulk of the natural gas reserves near the gulf states and the interior west.
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