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Old 11-05-2014, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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Chicago, Detroit and Cleveland in the winter were horrible and I grew up in New England. Not a fan of the lake side effort, the wind makes the cold weather feel 10 times colder.
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Old 11-05-2014, 05:02 PM
 
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I like wearing boots and hoodies and jeans and sweaters..I like cold more than hot..But living out in the middle of North Dakota, with the wind and lots of snow would be too much.
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Old 11-05-2014, 05:04 PM
 
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Anywhere it snows, is too cold. 50 degrees during the day is plenty cold enough.
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Old 11-05-2014, 06:34 PM
 
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OMG you guys way to necro-post now we can have this argument in two threads. I'm going to have to go with cheese plate on this one. The differences are just not that pronounced between MI and WI. However the further west you get away from Lake Mi the differences become more noticeable. It is MUCH colder once you're into the MN and the Dakotas. I grew up in MN winters are the differences from Michigan are undeniable. Of course you trade 15 degrees and sunshine in Minneapolis, for 32 degrees and a 3 month lake induced cloud dome over Grand Rapids whilst birds are chirping and you're trying to drive through three feet of snow. Pick your poison.

Let's please stop arguing over who's winter weather is crappier, and dispel the myths the ignorant sunbelt aholes spread that we spring clean our igloos in june whilst drying out our bear pelts in the 45 degree heat. Either way i'm in Louisville for the winter so i'll enjoy the entertaining panic and societal collapse that ensues when snow MIGHT be in the forecast

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Old 11-06-2014, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Chicago, Detroit and Cleveland in the winter were horrible and I grew up in New England. Not a fan of the lake side effort, the wind makes the cold weather feel 10 times colder.
You don't know what "lake effect" means, do you? Has nothing to do with "more wind." It's a snowstorm caused by a giant body of water when there isn't a storm front in the area (or additional snow during a storm due to the lake). Areas affected by lake effect snow are almost always moderated in terms of temperature by the lake, as well. So it's much warmer, and no windier (but snowier!) than a place without lake effect.

So, if you want a warmer winter than average for the region, you want to be in a lake effect band.

Lake effect - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
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Old 11-07-2014, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Also, I grew up in Door County WI, known worldwide for its cherry (and other) orchards. I work with several people who grow cherries in their Milwaukee-area yards. Etc.
I missed that memo. When I think of cherries, I always think of Washington state.
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Old 11-07-2014, 08:39 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I missed that memo. When I think of cherries, I always think of Washington state.
Depends on the type of cherry. In tart cherry production, Wisconsin and Washington aren't that far apart:

U.S. leading states of tart cherry production in 2013 (in million pounds)

Production in million pounds

Michigan 218.7
Utah 26.8
Washington 17.9
Wisconsin 12.3
New York 12
Oregon 4.3
Pennsylvania 2.2

Leading states of U.S. sweet cherry production in 2013 (in tons)

Production in tons

Washington 169,000
California 82,000
Oregon 52,000
Michigan 22,900
Idaho 2,300
Montana 2,015
New York 1,045
Utah 830
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Well for me I think the best illustration of too cold is in Minnesota. I would live in Minneapolis, but Duluth is a step too far. So somewhere around there it becomes too cold. I need at least a high of 80 degrees in the summertime and some sunlight. At the same time I am not keen on living in a Seattle type climate. Too cold in the summer and way too little sun. So even that is too cold for me. But places like Chicago, Boston, wouldn't be a problem, and Minneapolis would be tolerable due to it's summertime.
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:57 AM
 
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Minneapolis
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Old 11-07-2014, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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The northern plains (closer to Canada, the worse it is)...
https://static.garmincdn.com/en/prod...00/g/cm-md.jpg

and most of Alaska...(places without a maritime climate)...
http://gec.cr.usgs.gov/archive/alaska/images/tafig2.gif
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