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View Poll Results: Best Cities in the Midwest for Living
Akron, OH 6 3.53%
Chicago, IL 57 33.53%
Cincinnati, OH 21 12.35%
Cleveland, OH 24 14.12%
Columbus, OH 22 12.94%
Des Moines, IA 26 15.29%
Detroit, MI 16 9.41%
Fort Wayne, IN 5 2.94%
Grand Rapids, MI 14 8.24%
Indianapolis, IN 23 13.53%
Kansas City, KS-MO 23 13.53%
Lincoln, NE 12 7.06%
Madison, WI 36 21.18%
Milwaukee, WI 24 14.12%
Minneapolis, MN 62 36.47%
Omaha, NE 22 12.94%
St. Louis, MO 34 20.00%
St. Paul, MN 24 14.12%
Toledo, OH 8 4.71%
Wichita, KS 7 4.12%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 170. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-20-2012, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Madison, WI (Dane County) is the best small metro in the Midwest by far.
Guess who is a cheerleader for his own home town.
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Old 10-20-2012, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Fountain Square, Indianapolis
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Call me crazy, but the more I visit Columbus, the more I realize how different it is from Indianapolis. Columbus has more urban neighborhoods that connect to it's central city, and OSU makes a big difference. Downtown Columbus is also much larger, though not better than Indy's.

Again, call me crazy, but the Ohio city that Indianapolis most resembles, is Dayton (as far as the core city is concerned), although Indy's downtown is miles ahead of Dayton, the immediate surrounding area is very similar.
Crazy
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Old 10-20-2012, 04:14 PM
 
Location: IN
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Guess who is a cheerleader for his own home town.
Hmm, I haven't lived here that long, but I can easily compare it to other places since I've lived in many... The statistics prove my reasoning as well given the fact that Dane county has one of the highest educational attainments for any smaller to medium sized metro in the Midwest, the highest median household income, and the best overall job growth between 2000-2010. The tech sector here is performing very well and lots of smaller sized technology companies are expanding in Dane county. Throw in all of the educational and cultural amenities offered through UW Madison with a moderate cost of living compared to the coasts and it offers quite a bit overall.
Texas doesn't have any cities that compare to Madison. Austin is much too large.
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Old 10-20-2012, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Texas doesn't have any cities that compare to Madison. Austin is much too large.
Sure we do. Lubbock.
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Old 10-20-2012, 07:21 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Omaha needs more votes.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:20 PM
 
Location: IN
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Sure we do. Lubbock.
Lubbock does not compare at all to Madison. Madison easily outperforms it, particularly since Texas gets more federal dollars than the state pays in taxes. Texas is a net receiver.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Lubbock does not compare at all to Madison. Madison easily outperforms it, particularly since Texas gets more federal dollars than the state pays in taxes. Texas is a net receiver.
Texas is a net deserver.

I grew up 50 miles from Madison. You're not fooling me.
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Old 10-20-2012, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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I also think Madison is the coolest small metro in the Midwest, I bet a lot of people do.
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Old 10-20-2012, 10:22 PM
 
Location: IN
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Texas is a net deserver.

I grew up 50 miles from Madison. You're not fooling me.
Well, if you are actually from Wisconsin you would know that most of its smaller cities and towns are in far better shape than comparable ones in Texas. That is pretty obvious.

Deserver of what exactly??? Texas needs to pay its fair share as it is a net receiver and is highly dependent on government spending, particularly the defense sector.

The facts spell it out:

Lubbock County, TX: Population 283,910
Educational Attainment: High School Graduates: 83.4%
Bachelor's Degree or Higher: 27.5%
Educational attainment isn't impressive at all for having Texas Tech.
Median Household Income: $42,562
Percentage of the Population Below Poverty: 18.8%
Job Growth Percentage Change 2000-2010: +10.5%

Dane County, WI: Population 495,959
Educational Attainment: High School Graduates: 94.3%
Bachelor's Degree or Higher: 45.4%
Median Household Income: $60,519
Percentage of the Population Below Poverty: 11.6%
Job Growth Percentage Change 2000-2010 +10.2%
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Old 10-20-2012, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Texas needs to pay its fair share as it is a net receiver and is highly dependent on government spending, particularly the defense sector.
Of course. Why would they spend any money defending Wisconsin? (Which so far has given us Paul Ryan, Jeffrey Dahmer, Scott Walker, Ed Gein, Harry Houdini, and Joe McCarthy).

Ratio of median house value to median annual income (number of years income to buy a house):
Madison 4.48
Lubbock 2.78

Which means a Madison worker has to work 50% longer to pay for a house, than a Lubbock worker. So in Lubbock, after paying for housing, a worker has a lot more money left over to enjoy life. That's a quality of life metric. Pretty strong point.

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