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Old 03-21-2012, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Tennessee Delta
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^But don't people in St. Louis typically say "soda" instead of "pop?" She sounds somewhat southern to me btw. Not overtly, but with a slight southern twang or southern overtones.

I don't know about becoming, but Indianapolis has always felt surprisingly southern for a northern city IMO. The city is very spread out, lots of chains restaurants, and even some of the Indy natives sound southern. Just based upon sheer physical characteristics, Indy somewhat reminds me of Atlanta, Birmingham, and Houston meshed together.
I've been to Indy. While it's not southern, I would agree it definitely felt like it was farther south than it was. Honestly it felt closer to home culturally than St. Louis does and STL is only 2 hours away.

I kind of cringed when she said data, route and roof. I say all three completely differently than she does. I also don't say pop.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Takoma Park, MD
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I've been to Indy. While it's not southern, I would agree it definitely felt like it was farther south than it was. Honestly it felt closer to home culturally than St. Louis does and STL is only 2 hours away.

I kind of cringed when she said data, route and roof. I say all three completely differently than she does. I also don't say pop.
I do say "root" for route, but hearing here say data and roof was like nails on a chalkboard. I don't say "ant" for aunt, and I counted at least six other words I pronounce differently from her. But then again, I'm from the east coast, where everyone tends to say we pronounce everything "wrong."
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Tennessee Delta
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I do say "root" for route, but hearing here say data and roof was like nails on a chalkboard. I don't say "ant" for aunt, and I counted at least six other words I pronounce differently from her. But then again, I'm from the east coast, where everyone tends to say we pronounce everything "wrong."
There were probably more words that I pronounce differently but I mainly noticed the ones I mentioned. In route, I emphasize the "out". I say data like day-da, and roof like roo-f.

I've heard several people pronounce roof like they're trying to imitate how a dog barks lol.
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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I am from SE MO, there really isnt much of a southern accent until you get south of US 60.
These people (the farmers) are from my hometown of Sainte Genevieve, MO, no southern accent at all.

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These folks are from Poplar Bluff, MO, which is in the bootheel.
completely different accent.

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Certain words stand out to me, for example, most Southerners pronounce "on" and "own" the same way, which I didn't hear in those videos. I another word that stands out for me is "can't", which from us sounds more like "caint".

As far as Northern areas becoming more Southern, I'd say most of that happened during the Great Migration when lots of Southerners (mostly black) moved to Chicago, Detroit, etc...
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Old 03-21-2012, 03:26 PM
 
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^But don't people in St. Louis typically say "soda" instead of "pop?" She sounds somewhat southern to me btw. Not overtly, but with a slight southern twang or southern overtones.
She sounds straight up midland to me. She could be from Maryland, SW Ohio, or parts of central Illinois. She could pass for someone from Northern Virginia or one of the population centers of the Piedmont South or Texas.
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Old 03-21-2012, 03:29 PM
 
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Certain words stand out to me, for example, most Southerners pronounce "on" and "own" the same way, which I didn't hear in those videos. I another word that stands out for me is "can't", which from us sounds more like "caint".

As far as Northern areas becoming more Southern, I'd say most of that happened during the Great Migration when lots of Southerners (mostly black) moved to Chicago, Detroit, etc...
I rarely hear people say "caint". I do hear some people say "own" every once in a while, but it's mostly just plain on.
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Old 03-21-2012, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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She sounds straight up midland to me. She could be from Maryland, SW Ohio, or parts of central Illinois. She could pass for someone from Northern Virginia or one of the population centers of the Piedmont South or Texas.
She has a classic St Louis accent.
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Old 03-21-2012, 03:34 PM
 
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I'm a St Louis native, I have always heard both words used.
What I have noticed is that people whose parents are from the south will use the word pop, while speaking in a perfect midland/south accent, which is what the young lady in the vid is speaking with.
That twang you mention is the MO twang mentioned upthread by several people.
I've seen the video before and I thought she was from St. Louis until I heard "pop." She's gotta be from somewhere else, maybe Kansas City. She sounds a lot like a girl I know from KC. Although, she does have some of that nasally St. Louis sound goin on. Except she just says "pop" and not "paahp." Then at times she says things like "tin" instead of "ten" which is characteristic of KC and the South, but not STL, but other times she doesn't do that. Her accent is all mixed up.

And about "pop" I'm not sure why people with parents from the South would say "pop" Everyone here either calls it "coke" or "soda". "Pop" is definitely unheard of.
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Old 03-21-2012, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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I've seen the video before and I thought she was from St. Louis until I heard "pop." She's gotta be from somewhere else, maybe Kansas City. She sounds a lot like a girl I know from KC. Although, she does have some of that nasally St. Louis sound goin on. Except she just says "pop" and not "paahp." Then at times she says things like "tin" instead of "ten" which is characteristic of KC and the South, but not STL, but other times she doesn't do that. Her accent is all mixed up.

And about "pop" I'm not sure why people with parents from the South would say "pop" Everyone here either calls it "coke" or "soda". "Pop" is definitely unheard of.
Pop is a southern MO thing......all my cousins from the bootheel say it.
Drove my dad crazy.
I have a hybrid accent myself, so I get hers entirely.
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Old 03-21-2012, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Tennessee Delta
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Pop is a southern MO thing......all my cousins from the bootheel say it.
Drove my dad crazy.
I have a hybrid accent myself, so I get hers entirely.
Hmmm I've never heard pop down there. It drives me crazy too lol.
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