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Old 03-21-2012, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Somerville, MA
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You say it's better than it used to be, I assume we're talking crime and economy? When you say 'used to be' how recently would you say it was 'bad'? I've not been looking at cities and stuff like this for more than maybe 6 years, so any info or vibe I've got would have been in that time. Was it outdated info even then? Those images of New Bedford look really really nice. What's the cost of living like there? Is the real estate cheaper than in other places?
Mostly economy. It was never as good as cities nearby (Providence and Boston) and was often overlooked. The National Historic Park was only established 15 years ago and has only recently really started to look more and more attractive (those cobblestone streets were paved over and the buildings weren't in great shape).

Economically, Unemployment is still higher than it should be. However, the fishing industry has been the highest grossing in the country for the past 10 years. New Bedford's shipping industry has grown exponentially in the past 5 years and they're in the process of building a new $55 Million shipping terminal on the harbor to accommodate more cargo AND be the first staging area for offshore wind turbines (like Cape Wind).

The biggest change economically has been in the last 5 years. The economy didn't hit New Bedford as hard. In fact, New Bedford actually saw real growth in a few areas. First, high tech industries have really been attracted to New Bedford's technology park due to proximity to places like Boston/Providence and a much lower cost of operating a business. Second, healthcare is rapidly growing. Lots of specialization and growth in the local hospitals. Finally, the city, especially over the last 5 years has seen an absolute boom in small businesses opening up (particularly downtown). This means more jobs (for starters) and more life on the city streets. Nowhere is it more apparent than downtown which is really nice.

Housing in NB is quite affordable compared to the rest of the Northeast. I'm going to look at a 1800sq ft., 4 bedroom 2.5 bath house this weekend built in 1881, in move-in-condition listed for $94,000. It's not a foreclosure or short sale. Rents are quite a bit cheaper too.

6 years ago, you probably heard of negative out of people who haven't been to the city in a while. Reputation is ALWAYS the last thing to change. There are still plenty of people today who have no idea how much NB has changed. It's maybe more pronounced with NB because many people in MA rarely go to the city and their opinions are very dated. Almost anyone who visits now vs. 5-10 years ago will be quite impressed with the growth. It's not perfect. The unemployment rate needs to come down more. The schools need a lot of work. Crime could go down some more (though it's not and never has been astronomically high). Still, it's a very nice little city.
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:55 AM
 
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Old 03-21-2012, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Weymouth, The South
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Wow thanx very much all of you guys, especially you lrfox for all your New Bedford explanation.

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6 years ago, you probably heard of negative out of people who haven't been to the city in a while. Reputation is ALWAYS the last thing to change. There are still plenty of people today who have no idea how much NB has changed. It's maybe more pronounced with NB because many people in MA rarely go to the city and their opinions are very dated. Almost anyone who visits now vs. 5-10 years ago will be quite impressed with the growth. It's not perfect. The unemployment rate needs to come down more. The schools need a lot of work. Crime could go down some more (though it's not and never has been astronomically high). Still, it's a very nice little city.
I have to say that it's probably only been 3 or 4 years since I dove into New England and heard of New Bedford, but it was only Wikipedia and other things like that, so no opinions from people. I didn't come on this site until last year, and this thread is the first time I've had any personal perspective on the place.

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Old 03-22-2012, 02:46 AM
 
Location: Weymouth, The South
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Housing in NB is quite affordable compared to the rest of the Northeast. I'm going to look at a 1800sq ft., 4 bedroom 2.5 bath house this weekend built in 1881, in move-in-condition listed for $94,000. It's not a foreclosure or short sale. Rents are quite a bit cheaper too.
Also, to me, that is an insanely good price. Is that in a bad area or something? Surely that's not just 'quite affordable' compared to the rest of New England, that's way way way more affordable, unless of course it actually isn't as expensive as I thought. I mean $94,000 is somewhere around 60,000 and here that probably wouldn't even get you a run down one bedroom flat.
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Somerville, MA
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It's not in a rundown area. It's in fairly decent middle class area. There's nothing wrong with it either (so far as I could tell). I'm having a friend who's an electrician walk through it with me on Saturday just to see if it's all right, but it's a nice house in a good spot.
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Old 03-22-2012, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Weymouth, The South
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^^Well that's fantastic then. I'm truly amazed that you can get all that for that price.
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Old 03-22-2012, 07:57 AM
 
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^^Well that's fantastic then. I'm truly amazed that you can get all that for that price.
It is actually more common in the Northeast than people realize. Much of the Interior Northeast is like this. You may even find suburban homes that are similar.

Here are some examples to show that it can work up here: Nothnagle.com - Property Search Results
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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I'm going to put in a plug for two smaller Pennsylvania cities that have seen some pretty impressive revitalization/resurgence over the past couple of decades -- Lancaster and Bethlehem. Both of these cities have a significant amount of cultural offerings for their size, a great stock of affordable housing, thriving neighborhoods and are very proximate to several major metropolitan areas.


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Old 03-22-2012, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Weymouth, The South
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^^I'm glad some one mentioned some PA cities, and I must say Lancaster has always interested me. Thanx El.
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Center City
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