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Old 03-30-2012, 08:58 AM
 
Location: The City
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Wilmington DE is a fairly vibrant DT for a small city
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Old 03-30-2012, 09:09 AM
 
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Perhaps Oswego NY, which has a big bar scene, a SUNY campus, is right on Lake Ontario and the Oswego River bisects the city of roughly 18,000 people. Oneonta NY is similar, as well as Plattsburgh NY. Corning NY, a city of 10,000 and has a strong influence from Corning Incorporated, has the Gaffer District: Corning's Gaffer District - Corning, New York - Shopping - Entertainment - Museums - Food

Saratoga Springs is another smaller Upstate NY city with a nice and vibrant Downtown: Your Guide To Downtown Saratoga Springs, New York - See What Attractions Downtown Saratoga Has To Offer!

and some others: Downtown Geneva, New York 14456 - The Difference is Downtown!

Canandaigua New York - Your Guide to Beautiful Downtown Canandaigua, NY

Troy Business Improvement District :: The Troy Downtown Collaborative

Downtown Utica Development Association (http://www.downtownutica.com/index.asp - broken link)

About DSIC - About Us - Downtown Schenectady Improvement Corporation

Welcome To Downtown Cortland NY - Home
I Love Glens Falls, NY
Glens Falls NY - See What's Happening Downtown!

More information: Main Street Oneonta NY :: Main Street Oneonta NY :: Life Enjoyed

Historic Owego Marketplace - Have fun Shopping, Dining and Sightseeing in Owego, NY - Events

Binghamton Downtown Incorporated

Home Page | Downtown Albany BID

These have potential: Welcome to Auburn Downtown

Elmira DownTown Development, Inc.

Rome Main Streets Alliance, Rome, New York

Watertown NY Downtown*Business Association - Public Square

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Old 03-30-2012, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Most of the vibrant walkable small cities and towns I know of are tourist/resort towns or college towns.

Port Townsend, WA
La Conner, WA
Leavenworth, WA
Pullman, WA
Walla Walla, WA
Moscow, ID
Sandpoint, ID
Whitefish, MT
Cannon Beach, OR
Ashland, OR
Fredericksburg, TX
Telluride, CO
Aspen, CO
Cooperstown, NY
Walla Walla is walkable? Hahaha that is for to laugh! Although I will admit that parts of it are, I recall it being pretty spread out. Got lost there once driving around and it wasn't until I found the freeway again that I was able to find my way back to where I should be. Nice town though none the less. Nice neighborhoods and quiet.
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:34 AM
 
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Athens, Savannah and probably Charleston qualify as the OP said under 100K in the city proper.

Chattanooga is too large.
Athens, Savannah, and Charleston all have over 100K in the city limits.

But the city limit thing is a bit arbitrary. If Athens weren't consolidated with its county, it would be under 100K. Greenville, SC has a city population of about 60K, but SC has really restrictive annexation laws so it's city limits are artificially small. It has an urbanized area of 400K, an MSA of over 600K, and a CSA of 1.2 million. But its downtown does give you that "small town charm" effect.

http://www.planning.org/greatplaces/streets/2009/

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Old 03-30-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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I'd like to know which are the most vibrant walkable small downtowns nationwide which are not automobile centric within the city, or at least still has some semblence of being a nice, walkable downtown despite the urban redevelopment era which created parking lot bombs in many cities.

When I mean vibrant, I mean that many people use it during both the day and night and it is common for people in and around there to do activities like night clubs, cultural activities and many people on the streets walking. Meaning it isn't a ghost town at night, and only there for business people during the day. Also, there are actually people living there like in converted warehouse/factory lofts and charming old historic homes of the 18th, 19th, early 20th century. Hopefully places that are reasonably safe without a too high crime rate.

Can we please keep this about small towns and small cities that have less than 100,000 in the urban city itself? I am talking about less than 100,000 in the actual city, not the MSA or CSA of a city (which would include suburbs attached to that city). That would exclude already big hitters like NYC or DC or common household name cities.

If possible if you have pictures of the actual street view of what is happening and how it looks like up close and personal I'd be very grateful.
Check out Charlottesville, Virginia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wItcZ65rHg
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Old 03-30-2012, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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Here are some <100K Urban Centers/Non-MSA Small Towns in PA and NJ (including Princeton and Lambertville, NJ, as well, since very little of New Jersey is not included in a major MSA -- you would not know you're in a major MSA in either town, however).


Lancaster, PA
Harrisburg, PA
Bethlehem, PA
York, PA
Princeton, NJ
State College, PA
Bellefonte, PA
Jim Thorpe, PA
Cape May, NJ
Lambertville, NJ
Gettysburg, PA
Lewisburg, PA
Bloomsburg, PA

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Old 03-30-2012, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Burlington, Colorado
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Flagstaff, AZ (small city 50k+/-)

Very vibrant downtown; tourist, student, and local supported year-round. Lots of art galleries, restaurants, stores, bars, etc.
http://s14.postimage.org/4as7rpj1t/schart_054.jpg

An extensive "urban trail system"
City of Flagstaff Official Website - Flagstaff Urban Trails and Bikeways Map

And many on-street bike lanes and a definite culture of walking, biking, even cross country skiing to work and around town.

Coming from the rural midwest it was very different for me!

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Old 09-18-2012, 06:42 AM
 
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I will also second the Portsmouth, NH...as I have lived there, and would move back. (Maybe if the Winters were not so cold)

Also a very small one is Doylestown, PA. Historic downtown, restaurants, museums, and very walkable. Very small of like under 10k people, but has a major hospital, and lots of bars and outdoor cafe's and libraries etc. People are out and about in the day and night. Great food too! A tad expensive depending on what you want to do. Similar to a small Portsmouth, NH.

I also like Durham, NH...which is a college town, with in it's own town....it's sort of vast but still has a small downtown. During the day children and families walk around, and at night there are bars open etc....it's is very small, but also close to Portsmouth, and 1.5 hours to Boston. 1 hour or so to Concord, NH.

Also in PA, there is New Hope, great town with lots to do, quaint but vibrant. Very expensive real estate, but also great food, shops, and walkable...And another New Hope type place is Skippack, PA. More upscale, and family or mature/adult audience...where as New Hope would also cater to the teenage crowd.

Portland Maine is great, but not a small enough city for your criteria.

I would love to hear about other suggestions! Doylestown would probably suit my needs, but too close in the extended family department for my liking!
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Old 09-18-2012, 06:48 AM
 
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Portsmouth is also great because it is right on the water, and has docks with boats, Prescott park-a fav of mine, and also bars/restaurants with seating out on the docks over the water of the Piscatiqua.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:21 AM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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Portsmouth is also great because it is right on the water, and has docks with boats, Prescott park-a fav of mine, and also bars/restaurants with seating out on the docks over the water of the Piscatiqua.
Another vote for Portsmouth, I use to live 25 miles down the road from there. Indeed Portsmouth has a very charming and walkable downtown and waterfront with an exceptional selection of restaurants, pubs/bars, coffee shops, and small shops and boutiques. It also has a very impressive habor and as well as a large historic district (Stawberry Bank) of colonial homes dating back to the 18th century. Portsmouth is a great place for a pub crawl.

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Flagstaff, AZ (small city 50k+/-)
Very vibrant downtown; tourist, student, and local supported year-round. Lots of art galleries, restaurants,
An extensive "urban trail system"
City of Flagstaff Official Website - Flagstaff Urban Trails and Bikeways Map
And many on-street bike lanes and a definite culture of walking, biking, even cross country skiing to work and around town.
Coming from the rural midwest it was very different for me!
I'll back this, Flagstaff is really cool and it's in a such a beautiful area. It makes a great base for roadtrips to the Grand Canyon, Sedona, and the nearby mountains right outside of town. It also has its own merrits with a great walkable downtown with old pioneer charm and NAU infuses an eclectic college town presence. I'd consider living there but it gets a little too cold in the winter and a lot of snow.

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