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cacto · 04-01-2012, 09:32 PM

ps - Arizona should be the "Sunshine State" as it receives far more average hours of sunshine than Florida.

Here's CD's list of the top 101 cities with the highest average sunshine;

1. Phoenix, AZ (housing, pop. 1,512,986): 85.4%
2. Chandler, AZ (housing, pop. 240,595): 85.4%
3. Avondale, AZ (housing, pop. 75,403): 85.4%
4. Glendale, AZ (housing, pop. 246,531): 85.4%
5. Gilbert, AZ (housing, pop. 191,517): 85.4%
6. Peoria, AZ (housing, pop. 142,024): 85.4%
7. Tempe, AZ (housing, pop. 169,712): 85.4%
8. Deer Valley, AZ (housing, pop. 148,777): 85.4%
9. Mesa, AZ (housing, pop. 447,541): 85.4%
10. Scottsdale, AZ (housing, pop. 231,127): 85.4%
11. Surprise, AZ (housing, pop. 85,914): 85.4%
12. North Pinal, AZ (housing, pop. 59,965): 85.4%
13. Paradise, NV (housing, pop. 186,070): 85.2%
14. Henderson, NV (housing, pop. 240,614): 85.2%
15. Las Vegas, NV (housing, pop. 552,539): 85.2%
16. North Las Vegas, NV (housing, pop. 197,567): 85.2%
17. Spring Valley, NV (housing, pop. 117,390): 85.1%
18. Sunrise Manor, NV (housing, pop. 156,120): 85.1%
19. Arivaca, AZ (housing, pop. 50,441): 84.9%
20. Casas Adobes, AZ (housing, pop. 54,011): 84.9%
21. Tucson, AZ (housing, pop. 518,956): 84.9%
22. Catalina Foothills, AZ (housing, pop. 53,794): 84.9%
23. Las Cruces, NM (housing, pop. 86,268): 83.7%
24. El Paso, TX (housing, pop. 609,415): 83.7%
25. St. George, UT (housing, pop. 67,614): 83.6%
26. Lake Havasu City, AZ (housing, pop. 56,355): 83.3%
27. East Kern, CA (housing, pop. 69,614): 79.4%
28. Delano, CA (housing, pop. 50,310): 78.9%
29. Tulare, CA (housing, pop. 52,109): 78.8%
30. Visalia, CA (housing, pop. 113,487): 78.8%
31. Madera, CA (housing, pop. 54,959): 78.8%
32. Reno, NV (housing, pop. 210,255): 78.8%
33. Clovis, CA (housing, pop. 89,316): 78.8%
34. Sparks, NV (housing, pop. 83,959): 78.8%
35. Fresno, CA (housing, pop. 466,714): 78.8%
36. Carson City, NV (housing, pop. 55,289): 78.8%
37. Merced, CA (housing, pop. 76,313): 78.8%
38. Salinas, CA (housing, pop. 145,032): 78.7%
39. Bakersfield, CA (housing, pop. 308,392): 78.7%
40. Mather, CA (housing, pop. 97,081): 78.6%
41. Turlock, CA (housing, pop. 68,492): 78.6%
42. Santa Cruz, CA (housing, pop. 54,778): 78.6%
43. San Jose, CA (housing, pop. 929,936): 78.5%
44. Cupertino, CA (housing, pop. 52,948): 78.5%
45. Santa Clara, CA (housing, pop. 108,518): 78.5%
46. Modesto, CA (housing, pop. 205,721): 78.5%
47. Sunnyvale, CA (housing, pop. 130,519): 78.4%
48. Mountain View, CA (housing, pop. 70,090): 78.4%
49. Milpitas, CA (housing, pop. 64,292): 78.4%
50. Palo Alto, CA (housing, pop. 57,809): 78.4%
51. Coconino, AZ (housing, pop. 74,488): 78.4%
52. Flagstaff, AZ (housing, pop. 58,213): 78.4%
53. Redwood City, CA (housing, pop. 73,691): 78.4%
54. Fremont, CA (housing, pop. 201,691): 78.4%
55. San Mateo, CA (housing, pop. 91,601): 78.4%
56. Union City, CA (housing, pop. 69,477): 78.4%
57. South San Francisco, CA (housing, pop. 61,354): 78.4%
58. Hayward, CA (housing, pop. 140,606): 78.4%
59. Livermore, CA (housing, pop. 79,438): 78.4%
60. Daly City, CA (housing, pop. 101,005): 78.4%
61. Pleasanton, CA (housing, pop. 66,397): 78.4%
62. Tracy, CA (housing, pop. 80,308): 78.4%
63. Manteca, CA (housing, pop. 63,709): 78.4%
64. Castro Valley, CA (housing, pop. 57,292): 78.4%
65. South El Dorado, CA (housing, pop. 78,296): 78.4%
66. San Leandro, CA (housing, pop. 78,030): 78.4%
67. San Francisco, CA (housing, pop. 744,041): 78.4%
68. Alameda, CA (housing, pop. 70,699): 78.4%
69. Southeast Marin, CA (housing, pop. 52,094): 78.4%
70. Oakland, CA (housing, pop. 397,067): 78.4%
71. Ross Valley, CA (housing, pop. 59,662): 78.4%
72. Berkeley, CA (housing, pop. 101,555): 78.4%
73. West Contra Costa, CA (housing, pop. 236,008): 78.3%
74. San Rafael, CA (housing, pop. 56,008): 78.3%
75. Northeast Marin, CA (housing, pop. 54,506): 78.3%
76. Richmond, CA (housing, pop. 102,120): 78.3%
77. Central Contra Costa, CA (housing, pop. 459,252): 78.3%
78. Walnut Creek, CA (housing, pop. 63,701): 78.3%
79. Novato, CA (housing, pop. 51,518): 78.3%
80. Petaluma, CA (housing, pop. 54,660): 78.3%
81. East Contra Costa, CA (housing, pop. 73,778): 78.3%
82. Stockton, CA (housing, pop. 290,141): 78.3%
83. Santa Rosa, CA (housing, pop. 154,212): 78.3%
84. Concord, CA (housing, pop. 122,204): 78.3%
85. Yuba City, CA (housing, pop. 60,360): 78.3%
86. Antioch, CA (housing, pop. 100,586): 78.3%
87. Vallejo, CA (housing, pop. 116,844): 78.3%
88. Pittsburg, CA (housing, pop. 63,017): 78.3%
89. Loomis Basin-Folsom Lake, CA (housing, pop. 67,397): 78.3%
90. Napa, CA (housing, pop. 74,966): 78.3%
91. Lodi, CA (housing, pop. 62,451): 78.3%
92. Fairfield, CA (housing, pop. 104,897): 78.3%
93. Vacaville, CA (housing, pop. 92,691): 78.3%
94. Roseville, CA (housing, pop. 107,158): 78.3%
95. Citrus Heights, CA (housing, pop. 84,547): 78.3%
96. Folsom, CA (housing, pop. 66,123): 78.3%
97. Rocklin, CA (housing, pop. 50,131): 78.3%
98. Elk Grove, CA (housing, pop. 129,184): 78.3%
99. Davis, CA (housing, pop. 60,964): 78.3%
100. Sacramento, CA (housing, pop. 453,781): 78.3%
101. Rancho Cordova, CA (housing, pop. 59,921): 78.3%

New Horizons · 04-01-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lizz0rd

I got a bloody nose after 3-4 days in Las Vegas in the summer. It was the first time I ever had one.

While visiting Phoenix last month, I did get tiny traces of blood when I'd blow my nose. I'd have to use some sort of noise ointment if I lived there. I also applied a little lotion to my hands and elbows to soften them up. I had to use Chapstick too. Christ I don't think my car uses this many oils. So yeah maybe it is a harsher environment than Florida. But at the same time, the low humidity felt so good to me. The mornings were in the low 50's and sunny. I'd wake up, throw on my jeans and jacket and just start walking around their downtown. This is totally unlike me, I never go for walks. I know their summers are probably brutal. But I'm a native Floridian and I'm used to heat, I think I could adapt. I really liked Phoenix.

MiamiRob · 04-02-2012, 03:47 PM

For what it's worth I was born in the Northeast and humidity it no stranger to that part of the nation. Ever been to Manhattan in the middle of August? It's just as humid as Florida.
The "dry heat" in Arizona is like sticking your face into a Oven.

Johnhw2 · 04-02-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiRob

For what it's worth I was born in the Northeast and humidity it no stranger to that part of the nation. Ever been to Manhattan in the middle of August? It's just as humid as Florida.
The "dry heat" in Arizona is like sticking your face into a Oven.

I think this threat is not titled correctly. There are huge variation in Arizona climate from the mountain areas to PHX and Tucson. Its has more variety than Fla. Fla is milder temperature wise but much more humid for the most part. I like cooler climates to the mountains of Arizona would be my choice over fla. If its a choice of PHX or Tuscon and Fla, I will still take arizona but agree the so called dry hear is brutal. I also much prefer the high desert look in Arizona with mountains in the background in both cities. But as usual your mileage may vary

Inkpoe · 04-02-2012, 03:57 PM

Obviously it boils down to personal preference. I already know I could not deal with the Fla's humidity. I visited several times and every visit, my hearing aids shut down because of the moisture. That something I wouldn't have worry about in AZ.

AZLiam · 04-02-2012, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cacto

ps - Arizona should be the "Sunshine State" as it receives far more average hours of sunshine than Florida.

Here's CD's list of the top 101 cities with the highest average sunshine;

1. Phoenix, AZ (housing, pop. 1,512,986): 85.4%
2. Chandler, AZ (housing, pop. 240,595): 85.4%
3. Avondale, AZ (housing, pop. 75,403): 85.4%
4. Glendale, AZ (housing, pop. 246,531): 85.4%
5. Gilbert, AZ (housing, pop. 191,517): 85.4%
6. Peoria, AZ (housing, pop. 142,024): 85.4%
7. Tempe, AZ (housing, pop. 169,712): 85.4%
8. Deer Valley, AZ (housing, pop. 148,777): 85.4%
9. Mesa, AZ (housing, pop. 447,541): 85.4%
10. Scottsdale, AZ (housing, pop. 231,127): 85.4%
11. Surprise, AZ (housing, pop. 85,914): 85.4%
12. North Pinal, AZ (housing, pop. 59,965): 85.4%
13. Paradise, NV (housing, pop. 186,070): 85.2%
14. Henderson, NV (housing, pop. 240,614): 85.2%
15. Las Vegas, NV (housing, pop. 552,539): 85.2%
16. North Las Vegas, NV (housing, pop. 197,567): 85.2%
17. Spring Valley, NV (housing, pop. 117,390): 85.1%
18. Sunrise Manor, NV (housing, pop. 156,120): 85.1%
19. Arivaca, AZ (housing, pop. 50,441): 84.9%
20. Casas Adobes, AZ (housing, pop. 54,011): 84.9%
21. Tucson, AZ (housing, pop. 518,956): 84.9%
22. Catalina Foothills, AZ (housing, pop. 53,794): 84.9%
23. Las Cruces, NM (housing, pop. 86,268): 83.7%
24. El Paso, TX (housing, pop. 609,415): 83.7%
25. St. George, UT (housing, pop. 67,614): 83.6%
26. Lake Havasu City, AZ (housing, pop. 56,355): 83.3%
27. East Kern, CA (housing, pop. 69,614): 79.4%
28. Delano, CA (housing, pop. 50,310): 78.9%
29. Tulare, CA (housing, pop. 52,109): 78.8%
30. Visalia, CA (housing, pop. 113,487): 78.8%
31. Madera, CA (housing, pop. 54,959): 78.8%
32. Reno, NV (housing, pop. 210,255): 78.8%
33. Clovis, CA (housing, pop. 89,316): 78.8%
34. Sparks, NV (housing, pop. 83,959): 78.8%
35. Fresno, CA (housing, pop. 466,714): 78.8%
36. Carson City, NV (housing, pop. 55,289): 78.8%
37. Merced, CA (housing, pop. 76,313): 78.8%
38. Salinas, CA (housing, pop. 145,032): 78.7%
39. Bakersfield, CA (housing, pop. 308,392): 78.7%
40. Mather, CA (housing, pop. 97,081): 78.6%
41. Turlock, CA (housing, pop. 68,492): 78.6%
42. Santa Cruz, CA (housing, pop. 54,778): 78.6%
43. San Jose, CA (housing, pop. 929,936): 78.5%
44. Cupertino, CA (housing, pop. 52,948): 78.5%
45. Santa Clara, CA (housing, pop. 108,518): 78.5%
46. Modesto, CA (housing, pop. 205,721): 78.5%
47. Sunnyvale, CA (housing, pop. 130,519): 78.4%
48. Mountain View, CA (housing, pop. 70,090): 78.4%
49. Milpitas, CA (housing, pop. 64,292): 78.4%
50. Palo Alto, CA (housing, pop. 57,809): 78.4%
51. Coconino, AZ (housing, pop. 74,488): 78.4%
52. Flagstaff, AZ (housing, pop. 58,213): 78.4%
53. Redwood City, CA (housing, pop. 73,691): 78.4%
54. Fremont, CA (housing, pop. 201,691): 78.4%
55. San Mateo, CA (housing, pop. 91,601): 78.4%
56. Union City, CA (housing, pop. 69,477): 78.4%
57. South San Francisco, CA (housing, pop. 61,354): 78.4%
58. Hayward, CA (housing, pop. 140,606): 78.4%
59. Livermore, CA (housing, pop. 79,438): 78.4%
60. Daly City, CA (housing, pop. 101,005): 78.4%
61. Pleasanton, CA (housing, pop. 66,397): 78.4%
62. Tracy, CA (housing, pop. 80,308): 78.4%
63. Manteca, CA (housing, pop. 63,709): 78.4%
64. Castro Valley, CA (housing, pop. 57,292): 78.4%
65. South El Dorado, CA (housing, pop. 78,296): 78.4%
66. San Leandro, CA (housing, pop. 78,030): 78.4%
67. San Francisco, CA (housing, pop. 744,041): 78.4%
68. Alameda, CA (housing, pop. 70,699): 78.4%
69. Southeast Marin, CA (housing, pop. 52,094): 78.4%
70. Oakland, CA (housing, pop. 397,067): 78.4%
71. Ross Valley, CA (housing, pop. 59,662): 78.4%
72. Berkeley, CA (housing, pop. 101,555): 78.4%
73. West Contra Costa, CA (housing, pop. 236,008): 78.3%
74. San Rafael, CA (housing, pop. 56,008): 78.3%
75. Northeast Marin, CA (housing, pop. 54,506): 78.3%
76. Richmond, CA (housing, pop. 102,120): 78.3%
77. Central Contra Costa, CA (housing, pop. 459,252): 78.3%
78. Walnut Creek, CA (housing, pop. 63,701): 78.3%
79. Novato, CA (housing, pop. 51,518): 78.3%
80. Petaluma, CA (housing, pop. 54,660): 78.3%
81. East Contra Costa, CA (housing, pop. 73,778): 78.3%
82. Stockton, CA (housing, pop. 290,141): 78.3%
83. Santa Rosa, CA (housing, pop. 154,212): 78.3%
84. Concord, CA (housing, pop. 122,204): 78.3%
85. Yuba City, CA (housing, pop. 60,360): 78.3%
86. Antioch, CA (housing, pop. 100,586): 78.3%
87. Vallejo, CA (housing, pop. 116,844): 78.3%
88. Pittsburg, CA (housing, pop. 63,017): 78.3%
89. Loomis Basin-Folsom Lake, CA (housing, pop. 67,397): 78.3%
90. Napa, CA (housing, pop. 74,966): 78.3%
91. Lodi, CA (housing, pop. 62,451): 78.3%
92. Fairfield, CA (housing, pop. 104,897): 78.3%
93. Vacaville, CA (housing, pop. 92,691): 78.3%
94. Roseville, CA (housing, pop. 107,158): 78.3%
95. Citrus Heights, CA (housing, pop. 84,547): 78.3%
96. Folsom, CA (housing, pop. 66,123): 78.3%
97. Rocklin, CA (housing, pop. 50,131): 78.3%
98. Elk Grove, CA (housing, pop. 129,184): 78.3%
99. Davis, CA (housing, pop. 60,964): 78.3%
100. Sacramento, CA (housing, pop. 453,781): 78.3%
101. Rancho Cordova, CA (housing, pop. 59,921): 78.3%

Maybe we should ask CD if Yuma, AZ fell off the map. Why isn't it even on this list?

polo89 · 04-03-2012, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cacto

ps - Arizona should be the "Sunshine State" as it receives far more average hours of sunshine than Florida.

Here's CD's list of the top 101 cities with the highest average sunshine;

1. Phoenix, AZ (housing, pop. 1,512,986): 85.4%
2. Chandler, AZ (housing, pop. 240,595): 85.4%
3. Avondale, AZ (housing, pop. 75,403): 85.4%
4. Glendale, AZ (housing, pop. 246,531): 85.4%
5. Gilbert, AZ (housing, pop. 191,517): 85.4%
6. Peoria, AZ (housing, pop. 142,024): 85.4%
7. Tempe, AZ (housing, pop. 169,712): 85.4%
8. Deer Valley, AZ (housing, pop. 148,777): 85.4%
9. Mesa, AZ (housing, pop. 447,541): 85.4%
10. Scottsdale, AZ (housing, pop. 231,127): 85.4%
11. Surprise, AZ (housing, pop. 85,914): 85.4%
12. North Pinal, AZ (housing, pop. 59,965): 85.4%
13. Paradise, NV (housing, pop. 186,070): 85.2%
14. Henderson, NV (housing, pop. 240,614): 85.2%
15. Las Vegas, NV (housing, pop. 552,539): 85.2%
16. North Las Vegas, NV (housing, pop. 197,567): 85.2%
17. Spring Valley, NV (housing, pop. 117,390): 85.1%
18. Sunrise Manor, NV (housing, pop. 156,120): 85.1%
19. Arivaca, AZ (housing, pop. 50,441): 84.9%
20. Casas Adobes, AZ (housing, pop. 54,011): 84.9%
21. Tucson, AZ (housing, pop. 518,956): 84.9%
22. Catalina Foothills, AZ (housing, pop. 53,794): 84.9%
23. Las Cruces, NM (housing, pop. 86,268): 83.7%
24. El Paso, TX (housing, pop. 609,415): 83.7%
25. St. George, UT (housing, pop. 67,614): 83.6%
26. Lake Havasu City, AZ (housing, pop. 56,355): 83.3%
27. East Kern, CA (housing, pop. 69,614): 79.4%
28. Delano, CA (housing, pop. 50,310): 78.9%
29. Tulare, CA (housing, pop. 52,109): 78.8%
30. Visalia, CA (housing, pop. 113,487): 78.8%
31. Madera, CA (housing, pop. 54,959): 78.8%
32. Reno, NV (housing, pop. 210,255): 78.8%
33. Clovis, CA (housing, pop. 89,316): 78.8%
34. Sparks, NV (housing, pop. 83,959): 78.8%
35. Fresno, CA (housing, pop. 466,714): 78.8%
36. Carson City, NV (housing, pop. 55,289): 78.8%
37. Merced, CA (housing, pop. 76,313): 78.8%
38. Salinas, CA (housing, pop. 145,032): 78.7%
39. Bakersfield, CA (housing, pop. 308,392): 78.7%
40. Mather, CA (housing, pop. 97,081): 78.6%
41. Turlock, CA (housing, pop. 68,492): 78.6%
42. Santa Cruz, CA (housing, pop. 54,778): 78.6%
43. San Jose, CA (housing, pop. 929,936): 78.5%
44. Cupertino, CA (housing, pop. 52,948): 78.5%
45. Santa Clara, CA (housing, pop. 108,518): 78.5%
46. Modesto, CA (housing, pop. 205,721): 78.5%
47. Sunnyvale, CA (housing, pop. 130,519): 78.4%
48. Mountain View, CA (housing, pop. 70,090): 78.4%
49. Milpitas, CA (housing, pop. 64,292): 78.4%
50. Palo Alto, CA (housing, pop. 57,809): 78.4%
51. Coconino, AZ (housing, pop. 74,488): 78.4%
52. Flagstaff, AZ (housing, pop. 58,213): 78.4%
53. Redwood City, CA (housing, pop. 73,691): 78.4%
54. Fremont, CA (housing, pop. 201,691): 78.4%
55. San Mateo, CA (housing, pop. 91,601): 78.4%
56. Union City, CA (housing, pop. 69,477): 78.4%
57. South San Francisco, CA (housing, pop. 61,354): 78.4%
58. Hayward, CA (housing, pop. 140,606): 78.4%
59. Livermore, CA (housing, pop. 79,438): 78.4%
60. Daly City, CA (housing, pop. 101,005): 78.4%
61. Pleasanton, CA (housing, pop. 66,397): 78.4%
62. Tracy, CA (housing, pop. 80,308): 78.4%
63. Manteca, CA (housing, pop. 63,709): 78.4%
64. Castro Valley, CA (housing, pop. 57,292): 78.4%
65. South El Dorado, CA (housing, pop. 78,296): 78.4%
66. San Leandro, CA (housing, pop. 78,030): 78.4%
67. San Francisco, CA (housing, pop. 744,041): 78.4%
68. Alameda, CA (housing, pop. 70,699): 78.4%
69. Southeast Marin, CA (housing, pop. 52,094): 78.4%
70. Oakland, CA (housing, pop. 397,067): 78.4%
71. Ross Valley, CA (housing, pop. 59,662): 78.4%
72. Berkeley, CA (housing, pop. 101,555): 78.4%
73. West Contra Costa, CA (housing, pop. 236,008): 78.3%
74. San Rafael, CA (housing, pop. 56,008): 78.3%
75. Northeast Marin, CA (housing, pop. 54,506): 78.3%
76. Richmond, CA (housing, pop. 102,120): 78.3%
77. Central Contra Costa, CA (housing, pop. 459,252): 78.3%
78. Walnut Creek, CA (housing, pop. 63,701): 78.3%
79. Novato, CA (housing, pop. 51,518): 78.3%
80. Petaluma, CA (housing, pop. 54,660): 78.3%
81. East Contra Costa, CA (housing, pop. 73,778): 78.3%
82. Stockton, CA (housing, pop. 290,141): 78.3%
83. Santa Rosa, CA (housing, pop. 154,212): 78.3%
84. Concord, CA (housing, pop. 122,204): 78.3%
85. Yuba City, CA (housing, pop. 60,360): 78.3%
86. Antioch, CA (housing, pop. 100,586): 78.3%
87. Vallejo, CA (housing, pop. 116,844): 78.3%
88. Pittsburg, CA (housing, pop. 63,017): 78.3%
89. Loomis Basin-Folsom Lake, CA (housing, pop. 67,397): 78.3%
90. Napa, CA (housing, pop. 74,966): 78.3%
91. Lodi, CA (housing, pop. 62,451): 78.3%
92. Fairfield, CA (housing, pop. 104,897): 78.3%
93. Vacaville, CA (housing, pop. 92,691): 78.3%
94. Roseville, CA (housing, pop. 107,158): 78.3%
95. Citrus Heights, CA (housing, pop. 84,547): 78.3%
96. Folsom, CA (housing, pop. 66,123): 78.3%
97. Rocklin, CA (housing, pop. 50,131): 78.3%
98. Elk Grove, CA (housing, pop. 129,184): 78.3%
99. Davis, CA (housing, pop. 60,964): 78.3%
100. Sacramento, CA (housing, pop. 453,781): 78.3%
101. Rancho Cordova, CA (housing, pop. 59,921): 78.3%

Dang. Is there one Florida city on the list? I always heard it was the St.Pete/Tampa area with the most sunshine in the state of Florida.

Inkpoe · 04-03-2012, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by polo89

Dang. Is there one Florida city on the list? I always heard it was the St.Pete/Tampa area with the most sunshine in the state of Florida.

It makes sense. St. Pete/Tampa/Florida on the whole receives so much more rain than any of those cities. A lot of cases, 8x more.

cacto · 04-03-2012, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AZLiam

Maybe we should ask CD if Yuma, AZ fell off the map. Why isn't it even on this list?

We try not to talk about Yuma.

Lizz0rd · 04-03-2012, 08:32 AM

That list is deceiving, so don't take it as number of days of sunshine, that is something different. I know very well quite a few of those CA cities on the list will have many days of overcast in a row quite frequently, where in somewhere like Tampa you will never see this/ and the winters there will be clear, warm and beautiful, while the Northern CA cities on that list will be overcast/drizzly/chilly... it might be partial cloudy quite a bit though but the sun is coming in and out every 10 minutes. CA you'll have entire months with almost no clouds in the sky whatsoever which cranks up those percentage points, but then weeks on end with little breaks of overcast with drizzle and rains mixed in when a weather system settles in. Rarely is there a day in Tampa when the sun doesn't come out at some point, just doesn't happen that often. So you don't get the stir crazy effect of overcast days there.

Cities I'm referring to are ones like Davis, Petaluma, Santa Rosa, Novato, San Rafael, definitely San Francisco also.