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Old 04-20-2013, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Both coasts
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So where does middle America places like Chicago and Houston fit in within this scale?
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:49 AM
 
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I laugh at the idea of people on the west coast being more easy-going than those on the east coast. I know people from San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle like to say that LA doesn't represent the "Real west coast".....but on visits to LA (never have worked there so I can't comment on the corporate culture) the road rage I saw on I-10 and I-5 was like something out of a cheap comedy movie. People actually yelling and cursing at each other through their car windows and threatening actual violence....even getting out of the car to cuss somebody out a few cars up ahead? Only other place I'd seen road rage like that was in Houston (don't know where Houston would be considered on the "east-west spectrum")

Not saying that similar things don't happen on the east coast or anywhere else in the country. But you'd have to be California "dreamin" or stoned to think that everyone out there is really carefree and laid back.
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:02 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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These videos tell the differences quite easily.

East Coast(Wash DC). More formal in dress.

Hey, D.C.! What song are you listening to? - YouTube

West Coast(Seattle). More laidback in fashion.

Hey Seattle! What song are you listening to? - YouTube
Funny, I saw hardly any difference at all between the two. Judging from these, it seems that people are the same everywhere.
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:21 AM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I absolutely agree and I have never even been to the west. I've just heard story after story about this same thing regarding business etiquette and attire. All across the east coast is very formal and conservative in attire and practice. It's especially evident in NYC where you will see a handful of business men and women employees dressed to the nines in suits and ties getting to work. Whereas in the west, employees may come to work in shorts and flip-flops. Amazing. Personally, I'm done with the east coast and it's stuffiness.
I know this is a year old, but really? Never been somewhere but agree about its lifestyle?

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See the movie "Annie Hall" by Woody Allen for the best representation of this subject.

Beyond that, yes, the west coast (btw, not just CA, but WA and OR) tends to be more laid-back when it comes to business dress. Most, (not all), companies allow informal dress. Not shabby, but business casual. This is the norm up and down the west coast.
Frankly, I do not get my information from movies, especially not from Woody Allen movies. My Gosh, they're for entertainment, and even if they do convey an element of truth once in a while, they're caricatures.

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I live in the Seattle area. I work in the marketing field. I wear jeans almost every day, as do my colleagues. They are fashionable jeans, but still, jeans. Our colleagues in our east coast offices wear dress attire every day. In fact, our company's employee manual states that jeans may be worn on Fridays, but otherwise business attire is expected. HA! Our office and the San Francisco office just ignore it...don't know about the LA office. It would be odd to require business attire in our industry in this city.

That being said, I don't think anyone can claim that people on the west coast don't work as hard as those on the east coast. In fact, I suspect the reverse is often true. The cities most known for relaxed attire on the west coast are Seattle, Portland and the Bay Area (really just Silicon Valley) - cities with major tech industries. And anyone who knows anyone who works at a company like Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Apple, Facebook, Cisco, etc. knows that those people work their butts off. Work is by no means 8-5. It is for that reason that I think companies here are often willing to overlook casual dress in the office. People are working like slaves in cubicles for you, the least you can do is let them be comfortable while doing it.



Agreed! Isn't Google the company that lets you pick which 16 hours of the day you work?

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So where does middle America places like Chicago and Houston fit in within this scale?
Chicago is fairly conservative as far as dress goes. My nephew in finance there wears suits. He is 33 years old.

Denver is quite informal in some places, more formal it seems downtown. It also depends if you are interacting with customers or not. When DH worked at a place where they did interface with the customers, he wore dress pants and a decent shirt. Now he just works at his desk and his whole office wears jeans, flannel shirts, any kind of shirt.
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Old 04-21-2013, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Hollywood, CA
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Funny, I saw hardly any difference at all between the two. Judging from these, it seems that people are the same everywhere.
We might be seeing different. The folks in Seattle look a bit more casual on average compare to DC. Thete were far more people who dressed preppy in the D.C video compared to Seattle.
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Old 04-21-2013, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington
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We might be seeing different. The folks in Seattle look a bit more casual on average compare to DC. Thete were far more people who dressed preppy in the D.C video compared to Seattle.
I noticed it too. More khakis, dress shirts, and polos in DC. I also noticed the Seattle people had more discerning taste in music, while the DC people listened to more mainstream artists.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:09 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I found the music tastes of the majority of people in both videos to be pretty mediocre. But heck, it is just taste after all.
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Old 12-12-2013, 10:21 PM
 
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What am I listening to? MC5 - Kick Out the Jams, Mother****er! Those videos prove nothing. Ask that same question in downtown Detroit and prepare your ears for a barrage of American musical culture. Destroy All Monsters. Iggy. Eminem. The White Stripes. Danny Brown. The entire Motown archive. Detroit's music scene might be intermittent, but it is the best in America.
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Old 12-14-2013, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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The West is more hipster. The East is more hippie.
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Old 12-14-2013, 06:58 PM
 
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OK, people over here can dress very casually for work, BUT...my West Coast husband is an engineer and works at least 60 hours per week. M-F plus at least one weekend day, sometimes both, for about a year now, and often nights. He has slept under his desk overnight a few times. He hates his job, there are constant deadlines and the place owns him. Amazon, Microsoft, and other tech and engineering companies around here can work salaried people to the bone. I don't think it's just a matter of place, but also industry, that makes a difference in expected work ethic. There is no balance of work/life in so many jobs on both coasts. Read Glassdoor.
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