The "In-N-Out Paradox" (Walmart, cities, locations)
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We have the Crossed Palm Trees at our In-N-Out location in Daly City. It's always so cold around here with the fog that the Palm trees look wilted and dead..LOL!!!
Yeah, they brought them here to Texas too.....
Saw them last year in SF too.
Great example. At one point, we had about 5 or 6 Krispy Kremes in the Twin Cities. I don't know of any that are still in business.
Also, I think that if White Castle opened in a new city (they are now restricted to about a dozen cities in the Northeast and Midwest), you'd have the same phenomenon. It's not California, it's the food itself that creates the buzz.
I believe so, too, and Ronnie couldn't disprove it if he tried.
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Originally Posted by MB8abovetherim
I think this thread proves mainly that people like to talk sh*t on California. That's cool and all but, damn, I didn't realize it was THIS MANY people that did it.
Are most of us talking s***, or are we merely responding to homerism? If you have someone starting a thread talking about how the entire nation worships the ground that his/her state walks on, you can't simply expect people not to call BS.
I believe so, too, and Ronnie couldn't disprove it if he tried.
Are most of us talking s***, or are we merely responding to homerism? If you have someone starting a thread talking about how the entire nation worships the ground that his/her state walks on, you can't simply expect people not to call BS.
White Castle isnt known for being great. InNOut is.
Its not that your talking smack, its that youre not even entertaining the notion that it is a bit of a phenomenon. It is iconic, and has a top notch brand name.
White Castle isnt known for being great. InNOut is.
Its not that your talking smack, its that youre not even entertaining the notion that it is a bit of a phenomenon. It is iconic, and has a top notch brand name.
I'm not comparing them to anything else and I'm not denying anything. Just that there are other national chains that receive a lot of hype. To be fair, you seem to just be speaking of the value of I&O, itself. The OP, on the other hand, is suggesting that it is directly tied to some perceived obsession with the state of California that the rest of the country has. Anyone who honestly believes that is simply delusional. Period.
In the history of my membership on this forum, this is the first time I can remember hearing something so ridiculous as the fascination of a junk food chain symbolizing the fascination with a state.
There is this fast food Mexican place called "Taco Cabana" from Texas. Very good fast food, better tacos than In-N-Out's burgers in my opinion. If you told someone in California, it was from Texas...it just doesn't nearly have the same effect as telling someone from Texas (or anywhere else in the country) - a particular place is from California, regardless of whether they love/hate California.
I think California is widely talked about among Americans because it has had a major influence on our culture today. The general concept of the fast food restaurant, including the drive thru, started in California. The film and entertainment industry really gained traction in California. Arhcitectural styles, such as the ranch home, became popular in California before many other places. The accent pattern that many posters claim is washing out their regional accents is attributed to California. Many of the fashions that become popular in the country start in California.
Like it or not, California has a huge influence on the rest of this country. With that said, I strongly disagree with the notion that people are jealous of California. Sure, the weather in coastal Southern California is envied by many Americans who live elsewhere, but other than that, I just don't see what there's to be jealous of. Housing prices and taxes are beyond ridiculous compared to what most Americans are used to. Traffic in Los Angeles and the Inland Empire is nothing short of obscene. The quality of many of the roads I have traveled on in California is atrocious. The racial tension between different groups there is palpable and uncomfortable to say the least. The natural disaster risk (earthquakes, mudslides, and wildfires) is very high in portions of the state. Portions of the state have extreme problems with pollution. The list really stretches on and on.
Also, California is more than coastal Southern California. Redding, El Centro, Needles, Fresno, Sacramento, Eureka, Santa Cruz, etc. are all part of the state and show a very different side of California from what I think the OP is suggesting that everyone is supposedly jealous of. I think living on the shores of the Salton Sea would be one of the most hellacious places to reside in this country.
I agree, when most of the country thinks of California...they think of Southern California. I don't think New York is on the same level of influence as California, in terms of pop culture at least. Financially, it is on par.
The reality is, everywhere would think having an In-N-Out makes them, "more like California". Even the ones who hate California - would be incessantly bragging if their city got one, and nearest bigger city did not have one. It would take over any local "foodie" topic, without even having to be a gourmet meal.
I've seen Dallas use it against Houston. And it seems effective.
Um, no we don't. Nobody even puts that much thought into it. It's word of mouth about the QUALITY that sells things. Nobody associates food with a state, unless it's called a "California burger" or something.
If people like you go around talking about In N Out being a "California Thang", you might actually turn people OFF to it, actually.
And you still haven't addressed the Krispy Kreme phenomenon a few years ago where EVERYBODY all over America was freaking out over this North Carolina chain.
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Originally Posted by RonnieJonez
This is turning into a burger debate, which I wanted to avoid. I have noticed Burger King is now wrapping their burgers (at least the whopper) similar to In-N-Out style with half the burger covered up in paper. Before, Burger King had the entire burger wrapped...not anymore. As of this year. I'm sure someone else noticed as well.
The difference between In-N-Out vs the competition. There is a complete "awe" factor regarding In-N-Out that no other fast-food place (whether it be tacos, donuts, subs, etc) in American history has ever come close to. I highly doubt the majority of the people waiting in that line were Californians living in suburban Texas. They were Texans who wanted to see the "California burger place". Also, any Texas-based chain (even if In-N-Out were originally from Texas instead), would not have such a powerful effect in California.
I have NEVER heard of anyone in AWE of "In N Out". You're delusional now. It's a burger chain. Nothing more, nothing less.
People might be curious if they've heard a celebrity singing it's praises, but that's what sold the Krispy Kreme phenomenon, not where it was from.
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Originally Posted by slo1318
They can grin all they like, but they sill have to live where they live, meanwhile there are people in California living in a perfect climante enjoying all the amenities/attractions the state has, which is more than all others....
Then why is California losing so many people to Arizona, Texas, etc . . .
Even illegal immigrants are going back home, please.
Yes, many people go to California. Those are the fame chasing wh*res from our small towns who dream of being a Hollywood celebrity, but usually end up in porn or something.
The rest of us are happy with 4 seasons, affordable housing, decent schools, and the ability to speak English to ANYONE who lives in our state.
There is this fast food place called "Taco Cabana" from Texas. Very good fast food. If you told someone in California, it was from Texas...it just doesn't have the same effect as telling someone from Texas - a particular place is from California.
I've known that I&O was based in California for a while now. It had zero effect on me. I'd definitely consider trying it, the next time I'm in Dallas, but could honestly care less if it came to Houston or not. I'm sure most Houstonians feel the same. But I'm sure you'll insist that this is just me repressing my undying admiration for CA. I guess it will just continue to eat away at me.
White Castle isnt known for being great. InNOut is.
Its not that your talking smack, its that youre not even entertaining the notion that it is a bit of a phenomenon. It is iconic, and has a top notch brand name.
Brand:
White Castle
IN-N-OUT ($2.75 for that burger!)
Exuse me while I visit the toilet, that White Castle (whatever it is) made me come down with a case of instant nausea
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