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Old 05-04-2012, 12:05 PM
 
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Which State ( Massachusetts or Virginia)
has the most influence in United States in the early
19th century to early 20th century. What I mean
by the term influence in terms of education, law,
demogrpahics, Westward movement, the US constitution
and etc.
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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To be honest, it's California. What ever happens in California, it goes nationwide.
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:05 PM
 
Location: The City
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Originally Posted by ernestmanning View Post
Which State ( Massachusetts or Virginia)
has the most influence in United States in the early
19th century to early 20th century. What I mean
by the term influence in terms of education, law,
demogrpahics, Westward movement, the US constitution
and etc.
Tough one really


Might throw PA and NYC and those 4 drove a lot of the early history and significance

May err to VA actually; sans education form influence but a tough one overall


To the other post today would agree CA, as the largest state
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:09 PM
 
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For basically the 19th century, tough choice..

However, if you think about it, Illinois ( with Chicago) might not be a bad choice, if you consider westward expansion, industrial growth, population growth, agricultural expansion, railroads (transport of goods)..

Chicago basically burned to the ground in 1871, but rebuilt almost immediately; the city was also a destination for hundreds of thousands of immigrants..
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:59 PM
 
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Hey, I don't you guys understand my question.
Which one of these states play a significant role
of developing United States in 19th century to early 20th century.
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:50 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Looks like somebody is doing an essay / assignment for class?
jk

My vote would have to be with MA. Massachusetts was a major player in the Industrial Revolution of the 19th century. It was formerly an agricultural economy but transformed itself into an industrial one- they manufactured everything from clothing and textiles to hardware. Although their industrial economy saw a decline in the early 20th century due to cheaper alternatives in the midwestern, MA was still home to numerous elite institutions (Harvard, MIT, etc), and was always considered as one of the major players at the forefront of American thought, education and philosophy.

Virginia on the other hand, despite having some Industrial might, it was largely considered an Agricultural / Plantation economy in the 19th century. Virginia, saw a high level of conflict and destruction during the Civil War, which temporarily stagnated any progress the state may have made. After the Civil War however, Virginia did re-industrialize to a certain extent, especially in the Richmond area, and Newport News Shipbuilding also came into being.

As a whole however, Massachusetts level of industry in the late 1800s to early 1900s exceeded that of Virginia. Additionally, MA had a more elitist higher education system which brought more prestige to the State. Virginia, as before mentioned, had to rebuild their economy in the later part of the 19th century due to the ravages of war. Also, despite having more land area than Massachusetts, their population was approximately 2/3rds of MA's at the turn of the 20th century.

Hope that helps
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Old 05-04-2012, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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The one that screams the loudest. It's all politics.
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Old 05-05-2012, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Virginia in Early United States History
New York in mid United States History
California in current United States History
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Old 05-05-2012, 01:02 AM
 
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Looks like somebody is doing an essay / assignment for class?
jk

My vote would have to be with MA. Massachusetts was a major player in the Industrial Revolution of the 19th century. It was formerly an agricultural economy but transformed itself into an industrial one- they manufactured everything from clothing and textiles to hardware. Although their industrial economy saw a decline in the early 20th century due to cheaper alternatives in the midwestern, MA was still home to numerous elite institutions (Harvard, MIT, etc), and was always considered as one of the major players at the forefront of American thought, education and philosophy.

Virginia on the other hand, despite having some Industrial might, it was largely considered an Agricultural / Plantation economy in the 19th century. Virginia, saw a high level of conflict and destruction during the Civil War, which temporarily stagnated any progress the state may have made. After the Civil War however, Virginia did re-industrialize to a certain extent, especially in the Richmond area, and Newport News Shipbuilding also came into being.

As a whole however, Massachusetts level of industry in the late 1800s to early 1900s exceeded that of Virginia. Additionally, MA had a more elitist higher education system which brought more prestige to the State. Virginia, as before mentioned, had to rebuild their economy in the later part of the 19th century due to the ravages of war. Also, despite having more land area than Massachusetts, their population was approximately 2/3rds of MA's at the turn of the 20th century.

Hope that helps
^This.
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Old 05-05-2012, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I hope your teacher doesn't read city-data.
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