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Unread 05-28-2012, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Walker, Louisiana (I miss the mountains)
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Southern Appalachia should be it's own region rather than deep south. The differences are night and day.

And in my honest opinion northern Appalachia should be distinct as well from it's neighbors. Central/western PA, most of upstate NY, and even Vermont and upper New Hampshire have little in common with their coastal/Bos-Wash iterations. Save of course for transplants and tourists. I would say inner/northern Maine too but it is really it's own world entirely.
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Unread 05-28-2012, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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So, this is just one conception of regions.
That's actually pretty good.
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Unread 05-28-2012, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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I think the deep south/upper south divide is becoming antiquated. It used to be a huge division but now I think the division is more east and west. Something like this




I like the idea of the South Atlantic (with the exception of WV) divided from the inner south. The coastal southern states have grown a lot more and have surpassed states like Alabama, Mississippi and Tennessee in that way. They've become more diverse and cosmopolitan thanks to the growth of cities like Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh, and even Charleston to an extent. And I would include Florida in that region north of Orlando. South Florida is so unique that it doesn't fit into any region very neatly.

These days I think Georgia has more in common with NC than Alabama, which is a new phenomenon.
Maryland and Delaware should be grouped in with the northeast. To say they belong with North Carolina and Virginia before Pennsylvania is insane from a modern standpoint.
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Unread 05-28-2012, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Walker, Louisiana (I miss the mountains)
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Maryland and Delaware should be grouped in with the northeast. To say they belong with North Carolina and Virginia before Pennsylvania is insane from a modern standpoint.
I fail to see how Delaware was ever southern at all! XD
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Unread 05-28-2012, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Metro Atlanta, GA
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I think the deep south/upper south divide is becoming antiquated. It used to be a huge division but now I think the division is more east and west. Something like this




I like the idea of the South Atlantic (with the exception of WV) divided from the inner south. The coastal southern states have grown a lot more and have surpassed states like Alabama, Mississippi and Tennessee in that way. They've become more diverse and cosmopolitan thanks to the growth of cities like Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh, and even Charleston to an extent. And I would include Florida in that region north of Orlando. South Florida is so unique that it doesn't fit into any region very neatly.

These days I think Georgia has more in common with NC than Alabama, which is a new phenomenon.
I agree. From a growth and cosmopolitan POV, Georgia does have more in common with NC and Virginia than it does with Alabama or Mississippi.
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Unread 05-28-2012, 09:13 PM
 
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I have some problems with the OP's map:
1. Why is the NE corner of MT "Upper Midwest", while the rest of Eastern MT "Rockies"? If you've been there, you know that the eastern 1/2-2/3 of MT is very much like Western ND and western NE.
2. Why do many of the regions exactly follow state lines in the Central part of the country?
3. Why is Brownsville/Padre Island in the "Southwest", while the rest of the TX Gulf Coast is "Gulf Coast"
4. Why is all of FL in the "Gulf Coast" region? The state itself is distinctly split N/S between Gulf Coast and Atlantic coast.
5. What distinguishes the "Shallow South" from the "Deep South" in the state of AR?
6. Why are Western MT and the ID "smokestack" not in the Rockies, since that's where those mountains are?
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Unread 05-29-2012, 10:17 AM
 
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You really can't have the "Deep South" extending halfway up the state of West Virginia, and the "Southwest" doesn't extend all the way up to the state of Oregon...
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Unread 05-31-2012, 02:30 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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The Southwest extends up into Colorado and ends somewhere a bit west of the NM/AZ border. The only part of Texas that belongs in the Southwest is the small area around El Paso.
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Unread 05-31-2012, 06:04 AM
 
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The census does this for you already
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Unread 05-31-2012, 07:56 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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By 'shallow south' are you implying they're not as Southern?
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