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Old 06-12-2012, 06:37 PM
 
Location: South Central Nebraska
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Actually Indianapolis has a better job market and the nations most affordable housing market/lowest cost of living for a major city.
plus its closer to Chicago and Indiana has been a leader in the nation for job growth. 17000 jobs in the past month.

also South Central guy comparing unemployment rates doesnt give the whole picture when you cherry pick counties in a metro area.
Its better to look at the metro area as a whole. in that case Indianapolis has an unemployment rate of 7% and i can bet you most of those unemployed are from Government positions because A Indy is the state Capital and B Indiana has a smaller shrinking more efficient government.
Look at the private sector job growth in Indy and its been very healthy.
I wasn't trying to cherry pick counties rather I was trying to get past Granite Stater's cherry picking (picking a wealthy suburban county rather than also including the inner city distorts things too) because it looked like Hamilton is at 5.8% while Marion is at 8.9%. Average them out and you get a little over 7%. Usually that kind of a rate would be enough to give concern when moving that if someone loses their job it might not be easy to find another one but not so high like Las Vegas or Los Angeles that it would be a total deterrent from moving. It would be interesting to see what the job seeker to available job ratio is like. In places like Detroit or even New York City it is more like 6 job seekers to 1 available job. In DC I think it is closer to 1 job seeker for every available job.
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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I wasn't trying to cherry pick counties rather I was trying to get past Granite Stater's cherry picking (picking a wealthy suburban county rather than also including the inner city distorts things too) because it looked like Hamilton is at 5.8% while Marion is at 8.9%. Average them out and you get a little over 7%. Usually that kind of a rate would be enough to give concern when moving that if someone loses their job it might not be easy to find another one but not so high like Las Vegas or Los Angeles that it would be a total deterrent from moving. It would be interesting to see what the job seeker to available job ratio is like. In places like Detroit or even New York City it is more like 6 job seekers to 1 available job. In DC I think it is closer to 1 job seeker for every available job.
lol Indy isnt as large as Detroit or NYC so thats not a problem.
to help you out a little bit Indianapolis, IN Jobs on CareerBuilder.com
compare how many job openings there are to a place like Chicago. Chicago is 6X bigger and yet it doesnt have more than 3X the job openings. which mean's Chicago's labor market is in sad shape and that doesnt surprise me in all honesty.
You can compare other metros too.
NYC is 11X bigger than Indy and yet there is only 4X the job openings there too as another comparison. Which is in even sadder shape
So Indy's job market is strong but as we see across the midwest there are people that choose to be on unemployment then honestly seek out work.
Jobs are out there especially in Indiana. if your unemployed it means you really dont care to be employed and make a decent living.

Also another factor we usually forget is how well the business climate is and how proactive the governor is in job creation.
Mitch Daniels is very VERY active in our state to promote us as a great place to do business. Which Indiana is #5th in the nation for business climate and #1 in job creation. Having the governor around all the time talking to businesses and recruiting them helps bring more jobs to Indiana and hence more people to fill them.
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:22 PM
 
Location: South Central Nebraska
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lol Indy isnt as large as Detroit or NYC so thats not a problem.
to help you out a little bit Indianapolis, IN Jobs on CareerBuilder.com
compare how many job openings there are to a place like Chicago. Chicago is 6X bigger and yet it doesnt have more than 3X the job openings. which mean's Chicago's labor market is in sad shape and that doesnt surprise me in all honesty.
You can compare other metros too.
NYC is 11X bigger than Indy and yet there is only 4X the job openings there too as another comparison. Which is in even sadder shape
So Indy's job market is strong but as we see across the midwest there are people that choose to be on unemployment then honestly seek out work.
Jobs are out there especially in Indiana. if your unemployed it means you really dont care to be employed and make a decent living.

Also another factor we usually forget is how well the business climate is and how proactive the governor is in job creation.
Mitch Daniels is very VERY active in our state to promote us as a great place to do business. Which Indiana is #5th in the nation for business climate and #1 in job creation. Having the governor around all the time talking to businesses and recruiting them helps bring more jobs to Indiana and hence more people to fill them.
What are the big industries around Indy? OP may want to choose based on the best jobs she can find rather than just pick a city from a list. Also what is Northwest Indiana's problem, it seems to lag behind the rest of the state?
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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What are the big industries around Indy? OP may want to choose based on the best jobs she can find rather than just pick a city from a list. Also what is Northwest Indiana's problem, it seems to lag behind the rest of the state?
Northwest Indiana/Northern Indiana and even a little Central outside Indianapolis is more in line with the Rust Belt.
Although each area varies. for example Fort Wayne is doing very strong economically compared to say Gary, IN which was focused with Steel Mills and all manufacturing.
Indianapolis also had to deal with the rust belt issues but the city did an amazing urban transformation and diversified its economy so the rust belt doesnt affect Indy anymore. Hence one of the reasons its the fastest growing city/metro in the midwest.
Muncie is another area thats on the rebound and isnt affect as much by the rust belt as it used to be. Ball State university is helping out the town alot Lafeyette too and Kokomo is coming back with Chrysler investing Billions into the transmission plants.
Have to say its a blessing to see manufacturing jobs return to Indiana and the rust belt. Finally that rust can be shaken off

also looking at the OP wish list i would HIGHLY recommend the Carmel/Fishers or any Suburban School of Indianapolis. The top of the food chain would be Hamilton County or the Northern Suburbs.
Also Indianapolis has a brand new international airport. First completed since 9/11 so it was built with TSA security in mind. Hence why i like to fly out of Indy cause its very convient. Plus its only a 3 hour drive to Chicago.

Indianapolis is very strong with healthcare/anything health related for employment/services/small business owners because Indy is ranked as one of the best places to start a business/services and high tech manufacturing. Also you can throw in some financial services too and education.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:11 PM
 
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Unemployment Rates for Metropolitan Areas

This shows what unemployment is - Omaha is considerably lower.
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:36 AM
 
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What are the big industries around Indy? OP may want to choose based on the best jobs she can find rather than just pick a city from a list. Also what is Northwest Indiana's problem, it seems to lag behind the rest of the state?
Indianapolis would be healthcare, hospitality, logistics and still has a decent manufacturing base.

NWI has it's share of problems, all pretty much self inflicted but is still the second most productive area in the state. It's living will below its potential.
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Indianapolis would be healthcare, hospitality, logistics and still has a decent manufacturing base.

NWI has it's share of problems, all pretty much self inflicted but is still the second most productive area in the state. It's living will below its potential.
lol i totally forgot about logistics.
and ya NWI has so much potential. especially Gary. Gary would be the perfect tool to compete with Chicago and bring jobs over to Indiana........... just theres to many problems with Gary atm.

Also Omaha's unemployment rate is so low because the city is much smaller and hence why farming jobs can put a noticable dent in unemployment.
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Midtown Omaha
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Also Omaha's unemployment rate is so low because the city is much smaller and hence why farming jobs can put a noticable dent in unemployment.
According to the research done by another poster here Nonfarm-job-to-population ratio of all MSAs with 1,000,000+ population and info about the Omaha metro from here Table 3. Employees on nonfarm payrolls by state and metropolitan area Omaha has over 53% of the work force in this metric and would be near the top of the list.

No need to perpetuate the Omaha is a farm town sterotype.
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Old 06-13-2012, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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According to the research done by another poster here Nonfarm-job-to-population ratio of all MSAs with 1,000,000+ population and info about the Omaha metro from here Table 3. Employees on nonfarm payrolls by state and metropolitan area Omaha has over 53% of the work force in this metric and would be near the top of the list.

No need to perpetuate the Omaha is a farm town sterotype.
not saying Omaha is a farm town. just farming has more of an impact in Omaha. Regardless i know about Greedy Buffet.
They call him the Oracle of Omaha but in all honesty the way buffet got his money is shady and he really is more like the Embarassment of Omaha.
but atleast he can give his money to obama and call for the Buffet rule lol what a hypocrite.
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Old 06-13-2012, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Midtown Omaha
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not saying Omaha is a farm town. just farming has more of an impact in Omaha. Regardless i know about Greedy Buffet.
They call him the Oracle of Omaha but in all honesty the way buffet got his money is shady and he really is more like the Embarassment of Omaha.
but atleast he can give his money to obama and call for the Buffet rule lol what a hypocrite.
Ok.
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