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Old 06-12-2012, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Arkansas
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There are parts of the Ozarks where the music is VERY different.
My family has been in the area since 1699.
Missouri Old Time Fiddling Traditions

"Missouri Waltz" is one of my favorite songs.
I should've added that I could only speak for the southern portion of the Ozarks.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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"Missouri Waltz" is one of my favorite songs.
I should've added that I could only speak for the southern portion of the Ozarks.
The northern part of the Ozarks is known for French style fiddling, I grew up with it.
My grandfather was quite a fiddler from the southern Ozarks, he was fascinated when he discovered the northern Ozark style.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:05 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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There can be quite a bit of sub-regional differences between, say, Cape and Poplar Bluff as far as accents and the use of words and colloquialisms.


This is an excellent map of regional accents.
Thanks kshe95girl. I was just wondering whether the Ozark accent was similar to the typical accent of southern Missouri as a whole, which I assume is like Arkansas. Give that so much of southern Missouri is in the Ozark region, for instance Branson, I would assume they'd be almost synonymous, rather than there being a distinct 'Ozark accent' but I could be wrong.

Given your familiarity with Ozark culture do you see any major differences to Appalachian, particularly the southern Appalachian culture?
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Arkansas
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Thanks kshe95girl. I was just wondering whether the Ozark accent was similar to the typical accent of southern Missouri as a whole, which I assume is like Arkansas. Give that so much of southern Missouri is in the Ozark region, for instance Branson, I would assume they'd be almost synonymous, rather than there being a distinct 'Ozark accent' but I could be wrong.

Given your familiarity with Ozark culture do you see any major differences to Appalachian, particularly the southern Appalachian culture?
You're not gonna hear the same accent in Little Rock as you do in Springfield. Most of Arkansas has a verydifferent accent than southern Missouri.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Thanks kshe95girl. I was just wondering whether the Ozark accent was similar to the typical accent of southern Missouri as a whole, which I assume is like Arkansas. Give that so much of southern Missouri is in the Ozark region, for instance Branson, I would assume they'd be almost synonymous, rather than there being a distinct 'Ozark accent' but I could be wrong.

Given your familiarity with Ozark culture do you see any major differences to Appalachian, particularly the southern Appalachian culture?
You know, thats a really interesting question.
I've spent quite a bit of time in eastern KY, my husbands family is from there.
The food isnt the same as far as techniques and how ingredients are used, even though the ingredients in a particular dish may be almost identical.
In the far northern part of the Ozarks, there is still a lot of French/German influence that can be felt to this day, it even influences language.
There really are regional differences in dialect just withing the Ozarks, not to mention the Appalachians, gonna see if I can find some good examples on youtube to post.
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:42 PM
 
Location: West Tennessee
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Thanks kshe95girl. I was just wondering whether the Ozark accent was similar to the typical accent of southern Missouri as a whole, which I assume is like Arkansas. Give that so much of southern Missouri is in the Ozark region, for instance Branson, I would assume they'd be almost synonymous, rather than there being a distinct 'Ozark accent' but I could be wrong.

Given your familiarity with Ozark culture do you see any major differences to Appalachian, particularly the southern Appalachian culture?
Well first off the Bootheel region of Missouri doesn't really have any sort of mountain dialect. It has more in common with what is spoken in the Mississippi Delta.

As for the Ozarks, there are a handful of different variations to the Ozark dialect. I've heard several but I'm not so sure that I have enough experience to know which variations come from where. There is a difference between the Ozarks and the Appalachians when it comes to the dialect. There are smaller, but notable differences between the two when it comes to culture.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Well first off the Bootheel region of Missouri doesn't really have any sort of mountain dialect. It has more in common with what is spoken in the Mississippi Delta.

As for the Ozarks, there are a handful of different variations to the Ozark dialect. I've heard several but I'm not so sure that I have enough experience to know which variations come from where. There is a difference between the Ozarks and the Appalachians when it comes to the dialect. There are smaller, but notable differences between the two when it comes to culture.
I couldnt find any really good youtube vids to post to show the different Ozark dialects.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:16 PM
 
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While I really don't know as much about the actual cultural differences, the physical landscape/geology/nature definitely has some major differences.

#1. The Ozarks being on the edge of the deciduous forests with less moisture/precip and closer to the Great Plains there is less biological diversity in the Ozarks than in the Appalachians. Ozarks are primarily Oak-hickory forests, which are adapted to a bit drier conditions, than the more rich forests of the Appalachians where one find much more maple, beech, ash, hemlock, etc. There are more sp. of oaks in the Appalachians than one can count. Although the Ozarks forests are still just as beautiful.

#2. Although you have huge layers of limestone bedrock, with many, many caves, the Ozark plateau really doesn't have much coal, so you never got the huge coal mining culture. Although in the higher peaks directly an hour or so south of STL, you do have one of the largest lead mining districts amongst the outcrops of granite there. So, that is a major difference.
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:13 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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While I really don't know as much about the actual cultural differences, the physical landscape/geology/nature definitely has some major differences.

#1. The Ozarks being on the edge of the deciduous forests with less moisture/precip and closer to the Great Plains there is less biological diversity in the Ozarks than in the Appalachians. Ozarks are primarily Oak-hickory forests, which are adapted to a bit drier conditions, than the more rich forests of the Appalachians where one find much more maple, beech, ash, hemlock, etc. There are more sp. of oaks in the Appalachians than one can count. Although the Ozarks forests are still just as beautiful.

#2. Although you have huge layers of limestone bedrock, with many, many caves, the Ozark plateau really doesn't have much coal, so you never got the huge coal mining culture. Although in the higher peaks directly an hour or so south of STL, you do have one of the largest lead mining districts amongst the outcrops of granite there. So, that is a major difference.
Thanks, very interesting.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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I can definitely say that the Appalachians have very fertile soil compared to the Ozarks. Eastern Tennessee has a lot of cropland compared to southern Missouri.
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