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Old 07-12-2012, 10:19 AM
 
Location: The City
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But places like Chicago might have lost population in the central cities, which were already built out to their city limits by 1950 or so, but you really have to look at metro areas population. Chicago's metro has doubled in population since the city itself hit its peak population. There use to be massive amounts of families with 4-5 people in the household back then. It's much more a city with singles or newly married couples now, and then people move out to the burbs when they have kids. A reason the suburbs have grown by 800,000 people in the 1990's and 550,000 people in the 2000's.

Using Philadelphia as an example even between 1975 and 2000 (all I could find quickly) the popuation dropped by 10% and the housing units only dropped by 4%. Both are on the rise today
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Old 07-26-2012, 05:54 PM
 
Location: NC
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I guess when 488,740 move to New York State from 2000-2011 verses a tiny state like South Carolina which gained 667,218 people....It just seems like a region is more appealing than the otherand there def isn't a population explosion up north
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Old 07-26-2012, 05:58 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I guess when 488,740 move to New York State from 2000-2011 verses a tiny state like South Carolina which gained 667,218 people....It just seems like a region is more appealing than the otherand there def isn't a population explosion up north
Compare the individual populations of New York state and South Carolina.

Does it look like one of these states has more space to fill? Do you think COL has anything to do with it?

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Old 07-27-2012, 11:32 AM
 
Location: NC
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New York State actually has more space to fill
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Are they saying you are losing population or taxpayers? I'm thinking it's the latter.
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:22 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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New York State actually has more space to fill
Not in terms of population density.
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:29 PM
 
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Not in terms of population density.
There's plenty of available land in upstate New York. It isn't dense at all. New York City skews the stats.
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:20 PM
 
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There's plenty of available land in upstate New York. It isn't dense at all. New York City skews the stats.
Almost every state in the U.S. is like this. Population is highly concentrated in the metro areas of cities. That's why New York has almost 20 million people.

But South Carolina (which has under 5 million people) doesn't have any large cities like New York state and a number of other states do. So, it can take on a greater influx of people. Plus, the cost of living is much lower because of the lower population density.
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:46 PM
 
Location: NC
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Almost every state in the U.S. is like this. Population is highly concentrated in the metro areas of cities. That's why New York has almost 20 million people.

But South Carolina (which has under 5 million people) doesn't have any large cities like New York state and a number of other states do. So, it can take on a greater influx of people. Plus, the cost of living is much lower because of the lower population density.
Take away NYC denisty and New York State has more than enough land. NY State is not THAT urban
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:42 AM
 
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Take away NYC denisty and New York State has more than enough land. NY State is not THAT urban
In terms of population, it is. While there is room to grow up here, most people live in urban areas. To put the comparison into perspective, the Syracuse metro is neck and neck with the Charleston metro in spite of the Charleston area growing at a fast rate and the Syracuse area losing a county from its metro this past census. Syracuse would have been the biggest city in SC until this recent census as well, but is the 5th biggest city in NY.

As for the taxpayer comment, many NYers that leave are retirees. So, it isn't like it is all working people.
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