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Old 07-13-2012, 05:12 AM
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What are your feelings, in a few words, about the vibe of both areas and how it felt to you? How did the people feel to you? Don't necessarily mean California West Coast or Boston East Coast, anywheres.


East Coast--closed system, tradition bound, community oriented, narrow focus, "father knows best," patriarchal, hierarchal

West Coast--open system, non-traditional, individually oriented, wider focus, "mother knows best," non-patriarchal, non-hierarchal
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Old 07-13-2012, 12:19 PM
 
Location: The Bay and Maryland
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I've lived on both coasts. San Francisco and the Baltimore-Washington corridor to be exact. From my experience, the West Coast is much more liberal. In SF or the Bay Area, no one will care if you pull out a joint start and smoking it at a bus stop. In SF, there are people who just lay around and smoke weed all day in Golden Gate Park. This is unheard of in DC. DC is much more status-obsessed and ambitious. It's all about "where do you work, where did you go to college, what kind of car your drive" etc. DC is also more uptight than San Francisco. DC is all about appearances. DC is very conservative in the way it moves and dresses. However, the ghetto side of DC is very flamboyant and loud in the way it dresses and moves. However, L.A. has a similar materialistic vibe.

All in all, different cities on both coasts have different vibes. For example, Philadelphia is different from Baltimore and DC by the fact that interracial couples and mixed people are much more common in many parts of that city than the East Coast cities below the Mason-Dixon line. Philadelphia and Baltimore are blue-collar working class cities while DC is the quintessential white collar city. NYC is a mixed white collar and blue collar city.

One of the main differences between the East Coast and the West Coast is that many cities out West are much more racially integrated than the East Coast. The East Coast is hands down the most segregated stretch in America. Boston, NYC, Philadelphia, DC and Baltimore are all intensely segregated. All of these cities rank in the 22 most segregated metro areas while only L.A. and Salinas register on the West Coast on this list:

The 22 Most Segregated Cities In America - Business Insider

On the other hand, Northern California cities like Oakland and Sacramento are among the most integrated in the U.S. Also, Bay Area cities like Vallejo and Oakland almost have a completely equal demographic percentage of Whites, Blacks, Latinos and Asians. Oakland is about 25% White, 25% Black, 25% Latino and 15% Asian. Certain East Oakland communities like the San Antonio District are the most integrated in the U.S. This is because the divide in some areas on the West Coast is more poor vs. rich than White vs. Black. However, L.A. is very racially segregated unlike many areas in Northern California.

OF RACE AND PLACE: San Antonio/Oakland / Flavors meld in community east of lake - SFGate

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/02/29/430...ylink=misearch

Cohesively, Blacks are less segregated on the West Coast because Black communities on the West Coast are much smaller than back East. There aren't enough Blacks around to have a 99.9% Black neighborhood in SF or L.A. like you have in Baltimore, DC, Philly and NYC. San Francisco is only about 6% Black and L.A. is only about 7% Black. Major East Coast cities like Baltimore and DC are predominantly Black. Oakland used to be predominantly Black in the 70's and 80's. Today, there is no big city in California or the West Coast that is predominantly Black. Native born Whites and Blacks continue to leave California every year as recent immigrants from Latin America and Asia begin to dominate California. California is definitely more demographically dominated by Asians and Latinos when it comes to minority groups. L.A. is dominated by Latinos, mostly Mexicans and other Central American groups, while San Francisco is dominated by Asians, mostly Chinese.

At the end of the day, all big cities and metro areas are more or less the same on both coasts. You have snooty filthy rich people who are wealthy enough not to work living in world class cities like DC, LA, SF and NYC. You have yuppies living it up in these cities as well. By the same token, you have dirt poor people selling drugs and busting guns for a living a few blocks away in SF, LA, NYC and DC despite the fact that these cities are international hubs. You have crime-ridden second tier ghetto cities on both coasts like Oakland and Richmond in California and Baltimore, Camden and Newark on the East Coast where poor people of color far outnumber lighter-skinned yuppies and rich people. You have failed crime infested inner ring suburbs on both coasts like Compton and Vallejo in California as well as inner beltway PG County in suburban DC. You have wealthy outer ring suburbs on both coasts like Montgomery, Howard and Loudoun counties outside of DC, and Silicon Valley in the Bay Area. People from both coasts acclimate to the other quite quickly after living in one or the other after awhile.

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Old 07-13-2012, 12:44 PM
 
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What are your feelings, in a few words, about the vibe of both areas and how it felt to you? How did the people feel to you? Don't necessarily mean California West Coast or Boston East Coast, anywheres.


East Coast--closed system, tradition bound, community oriented, narrow focus, "father knows best," patriarchal, hierarchal

West Coast--open system, non-traditional, individually oriented, wider focus, "mother knows best," non-patriarchal, non-hierarchal
Agreed.
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Old 07-13-2012, 12:52 PM
 
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Cohesively, Blacks are less segregated on the West Coast because Black communities on the West Coast are much smaller than back East. There aren't enough Blacks around to have a 99.9% Black neighborhood in SF or L.A. like you have in Baltimore, DC, Philly and NYC. San Francisco is only about 6% Black and L.A. is only about 7% Black. Major East Coast cities like Baltimore and DC are predominantly Black. Oakland used to be predominantly Black in the 70's and 80's. Today, there is no big city in California or the West Coast that is predominantly Black. Native born Whites and Blacks continue to leave California every year as recent immigrants from Latin America and Asia begin to dominate California. California is definitely more demographically dominated by Asians and Latinos when it comes to minority groups. L.A. is dominated by Latinos, mostly Mexicans and other Central American groups, while San Francisco is dominated by Asians, mostly Chinese.

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I've come to the conclusion, in reference to this statement, that the main reason why California has seen this outmigration of native born people, can basically be boiled down to cost of living, and it being difficult to afford a nice house in a nice neighborhood with good schools within good proximity to good jobs.

While there are many very affordable areas in California where one can have a nice house in a nice neighborhood, with good schools, they are likely not in realistic commutable distance of where there are a lot of good jobs.

And if a native born family of four moves out, and native born single people, either separately or as a young couple move in, then there is a net outmigration.

As much as I love California, I will be the first one to admit, it it difficult for a middle class household to raise a family. Its a much better state for those who are childless.
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Old 07-13-2012, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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What are your feelings, in a few words, about the vibe of both areas and how it felt to you? How did the people feel to you? Don't necessarily mean California West Coast or Boston East Coast, anywheres.


East Coast--closed system, tradition bound, community oriented, narrow focus, "father knows best," patriarchal, hierarchal

West Coast--open system, non-traditional, individually oriented, wider focus, "mother knows best," non-patriarchal, non-hierarchal
LOL the two places I have lived are LA and Boston.

I agree with your assessment. I also feel like I must be pretty out-of-touch with a lot of America as I have only ever lived two of the most liberal cities in the US (though I am originally from a fairly moderate city in CA).
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Old 07-13-2012, 02:33 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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East Coast--closed system, tradition bound, community oriented, narrow focus, "father knows best," patriarchal, hierarchal

West Coast--open system, non-traditional, individually oriented, wider focus, "mother knows best," non-patriarchal, non-hierarchal
East coast is more traditional and busier. West coast is more experimental and laid-back.

That's about the only broad characterization I can make. Haven't noticed the other things you mentioned.
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Old 07-13-2012, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Atlanta & NYC
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I don't get the "mother knows best" and "father knows best" thing.
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Old 07-13-2012, 06:23 PM
 
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My brother lives in Honolulu and we are from NY, and he says the biggest thing (among many) is the mindset of people. West Coast is way more laid back, and East is more status conscious.

Ive been to the Left Coast many a time, and even if ive never lived there, I certainly agree. The Northeast is way too serious and stressful. The people here as a whole are a neurotic bunch.

You dont even have to go to the West Coast to experience such laid back vibes. Chicago is the closest thing to an East Coast city but the people are laid back.
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Old 07-13-2012, 06:41 PM
 
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When people are saying the East Coast or the Northeast, they mean the Bos-Wash corridor from what it sounds like, because not all of the Northeast is fast paced or status conscious.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:44 PM
 
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When people are saying the East Coast or the Northeast, they mean the Bos-Wash corridor from what it sounds like, because not all of the Northeast is fast paced or status conscious.

Sure it is. The mindset is still the same whether youre Upstate, NJ, PA, etc.
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