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Old 07-17-2012, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Shaw.
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I don't know maybe its just me but this guy really sounds non rhetoric to me listen to how he says "hard" (just push play it will automatically skip to moment that I'm talking about)

Steve Martorano on the Streets of South Philly - YouTube
He says the "R," he just pronounces the "A" in a way that people associate with non-rhotic speakers. He says "Hah-urd."

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Yes, you are right. The "oo" for the long "o" is not exactly how it sounds, but it was a quick way to type it. There's sort of a "w" in there, too. I'm not sure how it could be written to transmit the sound accurately using letters only.

I can see that it could be the ancestor. Philadelphia's importance in the early part of this country would have played a part in that, I'm sure.

Language is interesting. I've always thought so, and now my own daughter is studying linguistics, but more along the lines of how adults learn foreign languages.
I think "phone" is pronounced as a multi-syllable word or close to it. It's a very weird sound and I can instantly recognize people from Philly by that sound.

Anyway, linguistics is fun. I wish I knew more about it.
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Old 07-18-2012, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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I notice most Americans say the word 'sure' like 'sher', but some say it like 'shore.' Is this a feature of General American in the Eastern US? Is 'sher' pretty much Western US, Midwest, western South? Is the 'sher' the dominant form and spreading to the East as well?

Same with 'ahrange' or 'or-range' for 'orange.' Is the former more 'Eastern' and the latter more standard/Western?

What other words are said differently from East to West? Which forms are tending to spread?
Somewhat common place in the West Coast... Shooore, you did. For shore, We use it sarcastically/tongue in cheek mostly. Sher is definitely more common.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:22 AM
 
Location: WASHINGTON, D.C.
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"Shore" is the proper way to say it.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:26 AM
 
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met a decent amount of Midwesterners who say "shore". All have been older people.

It would come from the fact it was a huge area of german/scandinavian immigration back in the 1800's, and it fits that phonic.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:30 AM
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Location: Long Island / NYC
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A Long Islander or New Yorker with some r-dropping would pronouce sure & shore very close to shaw
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:53 PM
 
Location: NC
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I'm from South Carolina and I say sure "shore". Some people even say "sho"
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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Doesn't anyone else pronounce it the way we do (NJ)?

Shoor, which is neither "Sher" nor "Shore". As in "lure".
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:52 AM
 
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It's "Sher", and I'm from Georgia.

I've found that people who say "shore" are either transplants, or they are consciously thinking about the word "sure" when they say "shore", probably media influenced.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:54 AM
 
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"Shore" is the proper way to say it.
Actually, it isn't.

"Sher" is the correct pronunciation.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:58 AM
 
Location: WASHINGTON, D.C.
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I'm from South Carolina and I say sure "shore". Some people even say "sho"
That's country...

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Actually, it isn't.

"Sher" is the correct pronunciation.
No it isn't!!!

The only people who pronounce that way are nerds.
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