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Old 07-13-2012, 10:23 PM
 
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I notice most Americans say the word 'sure' like 'sher', but some say it like 'shore.' Is this a feature of General American in the Eastern US? Is 'sher' pretty much Western US, Midwest, western South? Is the 'sher' the dominant form and spreading to the East as well?

Same with 'ahrange' or 'or-range' for 'orange.' Is the former more 'Eastern' and the latter more standard/Western?

What other words are said differently from East to West? Which forms are tending to spread?
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:31 PM
 
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Probably.

Most people where I am from say it that way (Upstate NY).
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:38 PM
 
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The orange thing is normally east coast. I say it as "or-range" but my friend from Jersey says it as "ah-range". I also know that people with true Boston accents also say it as "ah-range".

I say sure like "sher". Older people usually say it as "shore". Not exactly sher why.
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:40 PM
 
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The orange thing is normally east coast. I say it as "or-range" but my friend from Jersey says it as "ah-range". I also know that people with true Boston accents also say it as "ah-range".

I say sure like "sher". Older people usually say it as "shore". Not exactly sher why.
Probably the influence of California and Midwest speech.
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:41 PM
 
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Probably the influence of California and Midwest speech.
For the "sure" thing? Cali people and Midwesterners say it as "sher" and not "shore"?
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:49 PM
 
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For the "sure" thing? Cali people and Midwesterners say it as "sher" and not "shore"?
I didn't pay too much attention when in the US, but from what I've observed on TV, it was an educated guess. I don't recall if I've read it somewhere, but it just seems I never hear those Californian valley girls saying 'sure' like 'shore', and a lot of TV shows in the West or Midwest...I think Steve Carrell from Mass says 'shore', and a few other actors from the East also do. I think on the Office in general they tend to say 'shore' more. Saying 'sher' just strikes me as sounding Californian or Midwestern.
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:55 PM
 
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I didn't pay too much attention when in the US, but from what I've observed on TV, it was an educated guess. I don't recall if I've read it somewhere, but it just seems I never hear those Californian valley girls saying 'sure' like 'shore', and a lot of TV shows in the West or Midwest...I think Steve Carrell from Mass says 'shore', and a few other actors from the East also do. I think on the Office in general they tend to say 'shore' more. Saying 'sher' just strikes me as sounding Californian or Midwestern.
Perhaps. I mean I know people from Boston who say it one way while others from the same area say it another way. You never know where it originates from.
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:03 AM
 
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it's one of those words that a lot of people say both ways. Like "for" and "fer" I say both, it just depends. "This is fer you" "What is this for?"
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:36 AM
 
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it's one of those words that a lot of people say both ways. Like "for" and "fer" I say both, it just depends. "This is fer you" "What is this for?"
'For' is more like 'the', there's a 'weak' and a 'strong' version. Most native English speakers utilise both. For instance, if you say, 'for it is nobler...' would would probably use the strong version, whereas if you said 'I use my credit card for purchases' you'd probably say 'fer.'

Sure/sher doesn't quite seem as random as route/root though. There seems a regional component to it's use.
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:08 AM
 
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'For' is more like 'the', there's a 'weak' and a 'strong' version. Most native English speakers utilise both. For instance, if you say, 'for it is nobler...' would would probably use the strong version, whereas if you said 'I use my credit card for purchases' you'd probably say 'fer.'

Sure/sher doesn't quite seem as random as route/root though. There seems a regional component to it's use.
Sure/sher is random to me. I hear both in this area. I can do a thick Southern accent with each and they both sound normal to me
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