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Old 06-11-2009, 01:17 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Old 06-12-2009, 08:09 AM
 
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Hmm

Well I'd think

New York
Chicago
Boston
San Fran
Philly
DC

are places you can find lots of people living just fine without car.

I'd say NYC, Boston and San Fran are fairly pricy cities.

Maybe DC, Philly or Chicago? I've only lived in Chicago of those three, and I know it's a fairly cheap big city. I had a roommate and survived just fine here on 42K. That was maybe 8 years ago, but my old roommate only made 35K teaching and she did fine last year.
DC is more expensive than Boston...
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Old 06-12-2009, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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man, philly's numbers would be so much higher if it wasn't for the great northeast section of the city. its like suburban sprawl up there
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Spain
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It totally depends where in the city you live.

I live in the suburbs of Portland, OR and I can say that living without a car would be doable, but annoying as hell. I mean the grocery store is a half hour walk and taking public transportation there would be impractical. Perhaps if you lives downtown you could, but nowhere else....

I have family friends who live in DC (capital hill) and get along fine without vehicles.
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:43 PM
 
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man, philly's numbers would be so much higher if it wasn't for the great northeast section of the city. its like suburban sprawl up there
What's up with that? The Northeast just feels so much like it doesn't belong, unlike the South.
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Old 06-12-2009, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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What's up with that? The Northeast just feels so much like it doesn't belong, unlike the South.
yeah, it's definitely in its own world. i think it was incorporated into philadelphia city later. so, it was more of a separate town.

Northeast Philadelphia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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The first European settlement in the Northeast was by Swedish farmers, who emigrated there when the area was a part of the New Sweden colony.[1] They were followed by English Quakers, including Thomas Holme, who came to begin the settlement of William Penn's Pennsylvania colony in the late 1680s. In the years to follow, Northeast Philadelphia developed as a scattering of small towns and farms that were a part of the county, but not the city, of Philadelphia. Before consolidation with the city, what is now the Northeast consisted of the townships of Byberry, Delaware, Dublin, Holmesburg, Moreland, Oxford, Tacony, Torresdale and White Hall (largely rural areas); and the boroughs of Bridesburg and Frankford, which were more urbanized

A separate identity

Frankford and Cottman Avenues, a central location in the Northeast


In the 1980s, the Northeast developed along a separate path from much of the rest of the city. In addition to the racial differences mentioned above, the political climate in the Northeast was balanced evenly between Republicans and Democrats, while the rest of the city almost uniformly voted for the latter party. As a result, many Northeasters became more and more discontented with the high city taxes and a perceived imbalance in the services they received for them. This discontent grew to give rise to a secessionist movement, led by State Senator Hank Salvatore, among others. Salvatore introduced a bill in the State Senate to allow the Northeast to become a separate county called Liberty County, but the bill failed to progress beyond this stage. As the Philadelphia economy grew stronger, and the most discontented people fled to the suburbs, and a new, more popular mayor (Ed Rendell) was elected the call for secession waned, and the section settled back into life as a part of the city.[4]
Today, the Northeast enjoys greater racial balance and relative stability. The region is uniformly developed, but like many American urban communities, it has witnessed the loss of manufacturing, factory conversions to marginal retail "outlets," and growing vacancies along shopping avenues, especially in the southern part of the region. With the recent tax advantages granted to new construction within the city limits, the Northeast has seen a growth in residential units on nearly any patch of available land.
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Old 06-13-2009, 08:42 PM
 
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Umm, people keep missing Philadelphia. We have the third largest transit system in the US and the third most utilized. Seven regional rail trains, two subway lines, 10 trolley car lines and about a hundred bus lines.
Yeah, I grew up in Philly area. They do have decent transit. Although SEPTA always had a reputation as being poorly managed and at one point it was the most expensive place in the US to ride a bus (don't know if that's still true). And service in a lot of the suburbs was kinda spotty.
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Old 06-13-2009, 08:45 PM
 
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yeah, it's definitely in its own world. i think it was incorporated into philadelphia city later. so, it was more of a separate town.

Northeast Philadelphia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Your post seems to show Northeast Philly has gone into decline, like the rest of Philadelphia, unfortunately.
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Old 06-13-2009, 09:36 PM
 
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Atlantic city is pretty good too with out a car they have the jitneys which i love too. and Taxi cabs are everywhere and everything is walking distance


I would love to move somewhere with out depending on the car and just use a car when i have to do major shopping or visit someone. I hate driving
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Old 06-14-2009, 12:16 AM
 
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[...] like the rest of Philadelphia, unfortunately.
Who'd you hear this from?
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