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Old 07-21-2012, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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i actually saw a trend in this list up until i saw springfield, MA on the list hmmmmmm so now im really wondering why nyc didn't make it. you cant sit on a train without a homeless person coming inside playing music for money, singing for money or a homeless women with a baby begging for money.
I'm wondering, too.

I don't mind when they sing on the train. At least they're giving something to you.

But it pisses me off when women use their baby as a prop to get crack money. There used to be one at the 23rd Street Station by the PATH who would sit there on the steps with her little girl at rush hour mumbling "can you help us, can you help us". It was all I could do not to plant my foot in her neck.

You know she's a lying crackhead--NYC has all the services you need if you are a mother trying to feed her child, both through the city and all the private shelters and soup kitchen. There was no reason for her to be sitting in the train station at rush hour blocking the steps to get money. I felt so bad for that little girl. She is doomed.

I feel the same way about the junkies who pass around the same dogs as props hoping that will garner them extra sympathy. But at least you see people buying the dog some food, so it's getting fed.

On the humorous side, a woman once asked me for money for diapers for her baby. I looked at her--she had to be at least sixty years old. I just started to laugh.
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Old 07-21-2012, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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I'm wondering, too.

I don't mind when they sing on the train. At least they're giving something to you.

But it pisses me off when women use their baby as a prop to get crack money. There used to be one at the 23rd Street Station by the PATH who would sit there on the steps with her little girl at rush hour mumbling "can you help us, can you help us". It was all I could do not to plant my foot in her neck.

You know she's a lying crackhead--NYC has all the services you need if you are a mother trying to feed her child, both through the city and all the private shelters and soup kitchen. There was no reason for her to be sitting in the train station at rush hour blocking the steps to get money. I felt so bad for that little girl. She is doomed.

I feel the same way about the junkies who pass around the same dogs as props hoping that will garner them extra sympathy. But at least you see people buying the dog some food, so it's getting fed.

On the humorous side, a woman once asked me for money for diapers for her baby. I looked at her--she had to be at least sixty years old. I just started to laugh.
where i live in midwood brooklyn i am becoming very suspicious of these turkish women with babies begging on the q train. idk why but for some odd reason i think their all fake and i think they all know eachother and its all a scheme.
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Old 08-08-2012, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Kenmore, WA
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I was pretty disappointed with the NIMBYs and general apathy to the 8700 plus homeless in Seattle-King County on any given night (based on the One Night counts), but I just learned about a program that I am very happy about. It doesn't solve the problem, but at least it helps get attention to those that want help, and appears to be showing some successes:

Seattle City Councilmember Mike O'Brien
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Old 08-08-2012, 08:43 PM
 
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I would have thought Miami would be #1
Miami does have a high population of homelessness and the city found out that other cities to the north were basically "dumping" their homeless by buying them one way Greyhound tickets to Miami. There were two homeless shelters downtown & the city offered to buy out one of them if they moved their operations to area the city would donate to them.
With the proceeds from the sale the homeless shelter was able to build this large "college like" facilty for the homeless. Part of it to feed & shelter them and the other part is for rehabilitation center were they clean up addicts, educate them & help them get back on their feet. It's been very succesfull.

Miami commissioners Thursday unanimously approved a development plan for a new Camillus House homeless services building -- one nearly four times larger than initially proposed.

The land, wedged between Interstate 95 and Northwest Seventh Avenue from 15th to 17th Streets, initially called for a 340-bed homeless facility of roughly 73,000 square feet.

Under the revised plans, the facility would still have 340 beds, but would grow in size to about 288,000 square feet.

Camillus says the larger, more campus-like development plan allows homeless residents to live in comfortable, spacious surroundings. The charity says the new layout also more effectively limits access in and out of the facility.

With the proposed larger square footage, Camillus would include a kennel where the homeless seeking help could place their pets, expanded conference and treatment rooms, and a stand-alone chapel. Additional office space would be available for other social-services agencies -- such as job-training specialists -- to operate on-site.


This was approved back in 2007. As for the "dumping" of the homeless in Miami :

letter to the editor of the New York Times regarding NYC buying one-way tickets for the homeless:
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We in Miami are sadly aware of this sort of practice. Every winter when it gets cold in the northern states, our streets become full of homeless, especially men, who arrive on Greyhound with tickets paid for by the northern cities. This way they don't have to house them there.

Mary Browning
Miami Beach, FL


Source : Miami Herald

Miami Dade county has a 7.5% sales tax of which 0.5% of the sales tax goes to cover "Indegent Healthcare" costs and has been in place since 1991. Say what you want about Miami but heartless it isn't!
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:59 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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How is San Francisco NOT the runaway #1 on that list? Anybody who's been to SF knows what I'm talking about.
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:09 PM
 
Location: CT
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Springfield Massachusetts??? Come on...
I believe it. The city isn't exactly known for wealth or great standard of living. Take a drive through, it could use some work.
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:45 PM
 
Location: 209 nor-cali
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SF is bad for homelessness...some are aggressive too
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