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Old 07-22-2012, 10:35 PM
 
Location: NC/IL/MI
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North Carolina Virginia is no slouch obviously
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Searching n Atlanta
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North Carolina. It's has the best system of higher education in the South, IMO.
Those are some big shoes to fill when pitting against larger states like GA and FL.

I do agree that NC public colleges are great. I grew up in Fayetteville and FSU has an amazing teaching program as well as being a HBCU.
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:08 AM
 
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Those are some big shoes to fill when pitting against larger states like GA and FL. I do agree that NC public colleges are great. I grew up in Fayetteville and FSU has an amazing teaching program as well as being a HBCU.
Bigger doesn't always equal better. Florida has some very large universities (UCF and USF for example) that despite their size (around 50K enrollments) lack in national reputation and to many here in the state bear more resemblance to a large community college.
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Well, considering that UVa definitely has a more solid academic reputation than UNC (which doesn't negate the fact that Carolina is among the elite public universities in the nation) and that once past UNC there is no university of that stature, but Virginia also has W&M, I'd definitely would give the nod to Virginia as the better of the two when it comes to public university systems. Personally I'd put Cal, UVa, and U-M at the apex of public universities in the US, and I think I'd have a lot of company in that assessment.

Now when it comes to comparing private universities, Duke and Wake blow away any competition that Virginia could offer.
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:36 AM
 
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Both have very good state colleges/universities and I've heard of many from both states. I think you can go with many state schools in either state.
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, NC, formerly DC and Phila
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Thanks for all of the comments. I am surprised how many think that North Carolina universities are more well-known.

My children aren't anywhere near the age for college - my oldest is 8 years away! I've been reviewing our finances, and we can probably only afford in-state tuition, no matter where we live, and I always envisioned that my children would go to Virginia state schools. And it is one of the things I loved about living in Virginia - the access to a wide variety of "affordable" public universities. It seems they have all academic levels covered. If my children are not extremely studious, they could go to less competitive schools like ODU or Radford, for example. If they are average, they could go to George Mason or James Madison. If they are above average, they could go to Virginia Tech. If they do very well academically, they could go to William and Mary or UVA.

Not knowing much about North Carolina's system, I was only very familiar with UNC Chapel Hill, and I know it's very competitive to get in to. I've heard of NC state, and if I had to guess it would be on par with Virginia Tech, so that seems like a good option. Other than that I've only heard of Appalachian State and Eastern Carolina, which I assumed, again, knowing very little about them, that they aren't very competitive schools, although, I may be mistaken. I simply had not heard of the others - living in PA/DE/MD/VA my whole life. But it seems like many of you have.

What would be the NC equivalents to the VA schools I mentioned?
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Old 07-24-2012, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Jersey City
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Thanks for all of the comments. I am surprised how many think that North Carolina universities are more well-known.

My children aren't anywhere near the age for college - my oldest is 8 years away! I've been reviewing our finances, and we can probably only afford in-state tuition, no matter where we live, and I always envisioned that my children would go to Virginia state schools. And it is one of the things I loved about living in Virginia - the access to a wide variety of "affordable" public universities. It seems they have all academic levels covered. If my children are not extremely studious, they could go to less competitive schools like ODU or Radford, for example. If they are average, they could go to George Mason or James Madison. If they are above average, they could go to Virginia Tech. If they do very well academically, they could go to William and Mary or UVA.

Not knowing much about North Carolina's system, I was only very familiar with UNC Chapel Hill, and I know it's very competitive to get in to. I've heard of NC state, and if I had to guess it would be on par with Virginia Tech, so that seems like a good option. Other than that I've only heard of Appalachian State and Eastern Carolina, which I assumed, again, knowing very little about them, that they aren't very competitive schools, although, I may be mistaken. I simply had not heard of the others - living in PA/DE/MD/VA my whole life. But it seems like many of you have.

What would be the NC equivalents to the VA schools I mentioned?
I'm surprised too. I would have thought Virginia schools to be more well known. UNC is certainly an excellent school. Among the others, I know of NC State and App State, but only for sports reasons (NC State simply for being an ACC member, and App State for their win over Michigan a few years ago). But academically, I would have assumed VA public universities would be on par if not above NC public universities.

Also, I'd classify JMU as "above average" if you're going to place Tech in that category. Actually JMU is a bit more selective (40% rejected at JMU vs 33% rejected at VT). VT has more national recognition because of football, but applicants have identical SAT/ACT and high school GPA profiles.
James Madison University - GPA and Test Scores Needed for Admission to James Madison University in Harrisonburg, Virginia
Virginia Tech - GPA and Test Scores Needed for Admission for Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia

I bring this up only as a matter of fact, my degree from JMU notwithstanding.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:21 AM
 
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North Carolina has:

Appalachian State University

East Carolina U (ECU)
Elizabeth City U
Fayetteville State U
NC Ag & Tech U
NC Central U
NC State U
UNC at Asheville
UNC at Chapel Hill
UNC at Charlotte
UNC at Greensboro
UNC at Pembroke
UNC at Wilmington
University of North Carolina School of the Arts
Western Carolina University
Winston-Salem State University
How on earth did you miss the most elite North Carolina school? Duke.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Austin, Texas, USA
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How on earth did you miss the most elite North Carolina school? Duke.
This is a comparison of public universities.

As an outsider, I've definitely heard of way more of the schools listed in Virginia than NC. Sure, there's the other UNC's outside of Chapel Hill but I don't know a thing about them, then there's App. State and NC State. For Virginia, I've heard of Norfolk State and ODU in Norfolk, George Mason in the DC area, plus William & Mary, V-Tech, and UVa.
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Old 07-26-2012, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Atlanta & NYC
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Those are some big shoes to fill when pitting against larger states like GA and FL.

I do agree that NC public colleges are great. I grew up in Fayetteville and FSU has an amazing teaching program as well as being a HBCU.
What school from GA or FL ranks higher than an NC school?!
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