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I've noticed that so many people, in their relocation searches, confuse two very different aspects of a place. Beauty/scenery on the one hand, and climate on the other. I get the feeling that people moving here to Phoenix are more concerned with climate-- their sacred 365 day a year sunshine and being warm than with scenery. Fact is, this place is UGLY, UGLY, UGLY. Just a nonstop 10,000 square mile pool of concrete and asphalt. The so-called "mountains" here are extremely small, ugly and dinky-- they're really nothing more than dirt piles-- and even then, this place is so flat that you can't even see them most of the time. Unless if you are wealthy enough to live in North Scottsdale, where it's actually nice. And it's so polluted here it takes away from it too. Los Angeles is really similar. What about cities that have incredibly beautiful mountain scenery and nice vegetation but with less-than-balmy climates?
I've noticed that so many people, in their relocation searches, confuse two very different aspects of a place. Beauty/scenery on the one hand, and climate on the other. I get the feeling that people moving here to Phoenix are more concerned with climate-- their sacred 365 day a year sunshine and being warm than with scenery. Fact is, this place is UGLY, UGLY, UGLY. Just a nonstop 10,000 square mile pool of concrete and asphalt. The so-called "mountains" here are extremely small, ugly and dinky-- they're really nothing more than dirt piles-- and even then, this place is so flat that you can't even see them most of the time. Unless if you are wealthy enough to live in North Scottsdale, where it's actually nice. And it's so polluted here it takes away from it too. Los Angeles is really similar. What about cities that have incredibly beautiful mountain scenery and nice vegetation but with less-than-balmy climates?
For me, neither. "Can I make a decent living?" trumps all! LOL
If I had to choose between the two, I would go for scenery over climate. Who cares if its warm if the place is ugly, ya know? And unless you live in SoCal, a "nice climate", as people in the sunbelt put it, only means a mild winter. They never mention the crappy summers. So my point is: unless you can live in SoCal, nowhere in the USA has good weather. At some point of the year or another it sucks, so scenery is most important to me. Yeah, thats it.
For me, neither. "Can I make a decent living?" trumps all! LOL
I concur.
Out of those two factors, I'd say climate would trump scenery but I'm glad Phoenix has both. I disagree that Phoenix is ugly, I think it's one of the most beautiful cities in the United States.
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Unless if you are wealthy enough to live in North Scottsdale, where it's actually nice.
I live in N. Scottsdale but I am far from wealthy and if you don't believe me, ask my accountant. And yes...it is nice here.
I agree Steve-o. To me the only thing nice about the sprawlbelt climate is nothing. I would die in the summer there, and I like my winters cold with snow. I love four seasons the best. I want my falls colorfull, my springs blooming and green with all sorts of colors, my winters cold, snowy, and peaceful, and my summers normal. I personally don't think 90 degrees with 80% humidity, where all my shirts have armpit stains, and every night I am being bit by 100 misquotos is fun. Beauty is more important to me. Denver was a great place for both.
Well, I'd like both and right now, I don't have either. One poster mentioned, "Who cares about the climate if the place is ugly?" I totally agree with that, and the same goes, "Who cares about the beauty if the climate is pathetic?"
I guess if I absolutely had to choose, it would be scenery over climate. If one is too hot or cold, A/C and heat help that and one can still open the window and gaze at something as lovely as forests, mountains, oceans, and all things beautiful.
But I can assure myself if I ever were to move again, I have will have both. I'm not going through this again.
If one is too hot or cold, A/C and heat help that and one can still open the window and gaze at something as lovely as forests, mountains, oceans, and all things beautiful.
I never could go with this philosophy. I like to hike, canoe, bike, camp, and enjoy my outdoors other then driving around in an SUV. When I lived in Colorado, It made me mad at the people who just enjoyed nature from inside their man made comfortable environment.
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So my point is: unless you can live in SoCal, nowhere in the USA has good weather. At some point of the year or another it sucks, so scenery is most important to me. Yeah, thats it. 
