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View Poll Results: New York City is more associated with:
New Jersey & Connecticut 98 93.33%
Upstate New York 7 6.67%
Voters: 105. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-13-2012, 01:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by kidyankee764 View Post
LOL, this is ridiculous. And I'm from the NYC area.

You can't tell me that Syracuse has more ties with NYC than Hoboken or Stamford, or even New Haven (served by NYC's commuter rail).

This.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:37 PM
 
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Not true.

NYC metro and upstate are more alike than either area wants to admit. To say that nj and conn are "like" nyc but upstate (albany and syracuse) are not is just false.

This is actually correct.

People treat upstate like its Montana. 4 cities with metros around at least a million people.


These people dont realize that most of these cities (Albany and Utica in particular) are populated with tons of people from the city. They move upstate because its cheaper. There are many families with an upstate and NYC family connection. Spend some time upstate and ask around. Its very likely youll hear a "well my family is from Brooklyn originally, etc." Especially the inner city.

So to the guy who said not culturally, hes full of it.

The demographics of NYC are also the same upstate. Mainly Italians, Irish, Blacks and PRs.

They think the average upstater is a hick. Not true at all. There are tons of hicks even in Jersey as well. Thats just something thats inescapable no matter where you go.


The thing is, upstate is a very diverse region in makeup geographically. It extends up the thruway 6 hours long. Thats first going north for 2 hours to Albany, then west for 4.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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LOL, this is ridiculous. And I'm from the NYC area.

You can't tell me that Syracuse has more ties with NYC than Hoboken or Stamford, or even New Haven (served by NYC's commuter rail).

Hoboken and Stamford are in the metro. Syracuse recruits tons of students and athletes from NYC. There are also a ton of NYC transplants that live upstate.

Youre splitting hairs.

What are you trying to say about Syracuse exactly, anyway? Its more influenced by someplace like Cleveland?

You should probably spend some time in these places before you make assumptions.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:43 PM
 
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Go to Utica kidyank. Youll be shocked how many ex-NYCers you run into.

If youre from upstate, its extremely common.

Especially more so today because of social networking. SUNY students are increasingly spending more time all over the state, whether its downstate or upstate. Its way more connected.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:44 PM
 
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new york and Connecticut by far. People in buffalo, rochester , and syracuse actually refer to use new york city folks as new yorkers lol. That right their shows you all the proof you need to know lol.

So does Long Island?
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:45 PM
 
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new york and Connecticut by far. People in buffalo, rochester , and syracuse actually refer to use new york city folks as new yorkers lol. That right their shows you all the proof you need to know lol.

So does Long Island.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:47 PM
 
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Im from Utica. One of my best friends growing up was from Queens when his family moved up here when he was 9. Hes Vietnamese. They came from Flushing.

Proctor High School is FULL of NYC transplants. Kids whos families move upstate for better QOL/COL.

Its extremely common.

I myself have family in Brooklyn and LI. Some stayed, some went upstate.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:56 PM
 
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The Northeast is extremely provincial in nature, which is why you get so many people within it thinking theyre different, which yes in ways they are, but to the outsider not from the Northeast, we are all very much similar culturally. Look at the 5 boroughs. Theyre all different in ways, but on the whole, theyre definitely the same. Very provincial region not even just city vs city but WITHIN the cities. You got people that dont even leave their damn borough and lived in NYC for years.

If there are differences between downstate and upstate, its because its more city vs. suburb vs rural than anything, not necessarily NYC vs Albany, etc. Its that way across the country. You can apply the same thing to other places all over.

Hows Dallas compare to the rest of the state? LA or SF to California?

Seattle to WA? Chicago to IL? Philly to PA? Boston to MA? etc. etc.
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:01 PM
 
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NYC is associated with itself - nothing else

areas in certain parts of north jersey, ct and the hudson valley of upstate NY are also associated with the city

the rest of the respective states - not so much

people don't associate NYC with CT or NJ or upstate NY - it's the other way around .... someone from manhattan isn't asked about their great access to stamford or hoboken and how much they get over there, the opposite is definitely true though
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:34 PM
 
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Hoboken and Stamford are in the metro. Syracuse recruits tons of students and athletes from NYC. There are also a ton of NYC transplants that live upstate.

Youre splitting hairs.

What are you trying to say about Syracuse exactly, anyway? Its more influenced by someplace like Cleveland?

You should probably spend some time in these places before you make assumptions.
Syracuse also recruits a lot of people from Boston - so I guess we should associate the entire city with the Boston Metro area.

That's the dumbest fricken' thing I've heard in a long time.
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