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exactly - not sure why this is so complicated for some......... and every subregion refers to themselves by that subregion .... nothing really unique there either
i guess that means they aren't upstate NY either......................
dopey and really not worth going any further with
What's dopey is that that other poster thinks the Hudson Valley isn't Upstate. You can go back and find the post somewheres. He posted something that a person said/quoted that the area really isn't upstate. Why post something so rediculous?
You are correct my friend I am from Buffalo, and we(along with Rochester) refer to our area as "Western". NOT upstate. It's not just us either, the press and media refer to us as WNY as well. Here is a perfect example.
Yes, because the person living in Connecticut knows more about aggie75's own state than they do.
Gotta love the internet.
This person living in Connecticut lives in the tri-state region in question.
Here in CT, when someone says "upstate", it means New York. We're so small that we don't have an "upstate". You never hear anyone say "I'm headed to western NY". We would consider that Orange or Rockland County, and that would be accompanied by a strange look.
Anyway, to tri-staters, Buffalo is upstate. Way upstate.
People... "Upstate" is anything that is not "Downstate." Where the line between them is, is a big debate. But the idea that Buffalo is not "Upstate" is just crazy. Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, the Adirondacks... it's ALL Upstate.
Buffalonians like to put on airs by pretending that "Western NY" and "Upstate" are two different things, which I really don't get. Western New York is a subregion of Upstate New York. Pretty simple.
Now, I agree that Western New York is (heh) "different" but that's mainly because of the way they call soda "pop" and their silly habit of putting "the" in front of highway route numbers. ("Take the 90...")
What's dopey is that that other poster thinks the Hudson Valley isn't Upstate. You can go back and find the post somewheres. He posted something that a person said/quoted that the area really isn't upstate. Why post something so rediculous?
Not true and you can read that post again. It says that some may not consider the Hudson Valley to be Upstate NY. Again, there is a difference. Some may think that due to the fact that much of the media that serves that area of the state comes from NYC.
You notice some of the schools that some of the Downstate players come from? Valley Central, Monroe-Woodbury, Cornwall, Wallkill, Poughkeepsie, etc. Those schools are in or are very close to the Hudson Valley. So, I stand by my statement, as there are some that consider the Hudson Valley or much of it to be Downstate NY. Just the messenger....
New York City is the largest city in the United States - with over 8.2 million people in its city limits. However, NYC's metro area is much larger than even that and includes major portions of New Jersey and Connecticut as well as downstate New York. By contrast, upstate New York has a vastly greater land area with a number of cities and towns which are much smaller than NYC and is also mainly rural, mountainous, filled with forests and many lakes.
So, given this, which do you associate more with NYC: NJ & CT or upstate New York?
I'll be the most surprised person on the continent if it should turn out that you're from New York City. And that's because New York City isn't--I mean, is NEVER--associated with New Jersey or Connecticut. If anything, it's the other way around.
(As to upstate New York, people in cities like Buffalo, Rochester, Utica and Albany might not feel quite so rural as all that).
I'll be the most surprised person on the continent if it should turn out that you're from New York City. And that's because New York City isn't--I mean, is NEVER--associated with New Jersey or Connecticut. If anything, it's the other way around.
(As to upstate New York, people in cities like Buffalo, Rochester, Utica and Albany might not feel quite so rural as all that).
100% correct, and I think the original post is worded wrong. It should read "which area is more closely associated with NYC - NJ & CT or upstate NY?"
And in that case, it's clearly NJ & CT. That's primarily what the debate has been about for the past 20 pages.
I'm from the Bronx and I don't consider Westchester County and Yonkers upstate. It's literally 7 minutes away on the major Deegan. Also, in Cross County mall (Westchester county), the vast mayority of people are from the boogie.
We associate more with NJ and CT. To me, Upstate NY is a whole different world. It might as well belong to a different state.
I'm from the Bronx and I don't consider Westchester County and Yonkers upstate. It's literally 7 minutes away on the major Deegan. Also, in Cross County mall (Westchester county), the vast mayority of people are from the boogie.
We associate more with NJ and CT. To me, Upstate NY is a whole different world. It might as well belong to a different state.
thank you. my friend from the north bronx always refers to mt vernon as mt vernon. Never upstate.
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I am from Buffalo, and we(along with Rochester) refer to our area as "Western". NOT upstate. It's not just us either, the press and media refer to us as WNY as well. Here is a perfect example.
