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Old 08-08-2012, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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The thing is, if we object to NOVA being "southern" due to "all those northern transplants"... how would that same criticism not apply to Dallas or Houston? Sometimes it feels like half the people in parts of the Dallas metroplex are from the same area of southern Michigan/northern Ohio...
The #2 statement on polo89's post answers your question.

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I just read the silliness of this whole thread.

1. DC's in a region all to it's own.

2. Houston, Dallas, Atlanta and Miami are all part of the South.

3. None of them are part of the "Deep South".

4. NoVa's as much a part of the South as Miami is.

5. B'more isn't the South. It's Northern like Philly and the rest.
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Old 08-08-2012, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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Ok let me make a ruling here.

For purposes of this thread DC is NOT- I repeat NOT- Southern. The Op said the big 4 of the South. He obviously meant Houston, San Antonio, Miami and Charlotte

anyone who continues to run down this thread with the overplayed "what is the South" talk will receive 5 demerits and a spanking
It's a legitimate argument because we are debating if a certain city deserves to be mentioned as one of the Big 4.

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Old 08-08-2012, 09:16 PM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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Ehh..Let's just say they are in the South. Although Nairobi may say Houston is in the Deep South. I don't. So it is a matter on who you are talking to.
In the way Jackson is, no, of course not. Houston and Atlanta are the gateways to the region.

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Never met anyone from DC. My aunt is from Virginia, the last thing I would call her is southern.
I can't think of anyone I've ever met from DC seeming southern.
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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It's a legitimate argument because we are debating if a certain city deserves to be mentioned as one of the Big 4.
Not legitimate at all.

It only derails threads. The OP mentioned what he meant by THE 4:
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Which of the BIG 4 of Houston, Miami, Dallas and Atlanta has the most untapped potential, in terms of getting into that next level of an LA, SF and Chicago
He asked does Houston, Miami, Dallas or ATL have what it takes. He did not ask if Houston, Miami, Dallas, ATL OR DC

It was a VERY specific question I dunno why every one of these has to be turned into what is Southern and what is not
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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Not legitimate at all.

It only derails threads. The OP mentioned what he meant by THE 4:


He asked does Houston, Miami, Dallas or ATL have what it takes. He did not ask if Houston, Miami, Dallas, ATL OR DC

It was a VERY specific question I dunno why every one of these has to be turned into what is Southern and what is not
Well I was one of the people on here who said DC didn't even belong in this discussion in the first place so I agree with you on the last statement. By the way to correct you on a statement you made several pages back, Houston does indeed have the largest land area within its city limits and not Dallas.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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In the way Jackson is, no, of course not. Houston and Atlanta are the gateways to the region.



I can't think of anyone I've ever met from DC seeming southern.
Yes but I feel Atlanta is far more like Jackson in feel than Houston is. I say Atlanta is fully in the Deep South. Houston is not. But I could be wrong.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Yes but I feel Atlanta is far more like Jackson in feel than Houston is. I say Atlanta is fully in the Deep South. Houston is not. But I could be wrong.
Not to sound rude but, you are. Houston parallels the typical deep south culture.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Not to sound rude but, you are. Houston parallels the typical deep south culture.
Most of the people who say that Houston isn't is somehow shamed of the Deep South. Those Austin Hippies hate being associated with the deep south. You walking around many of the neighborhoods- Third Ward, Sunny Side, Acres Homes, A lot of the east side , a lot of the South Side, a lot of the north side of the metro just screams deep south.

Of course the richer areas don't feel a lot like it, but every city has its share of rich areas that don't feel deep south.

FYI I think the areas around Austin and San Antonio are 100% southern
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:10 PM
 
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Yes but I feel Atlanta is far more like Jackson in feel than Houston is. I say Atlanta is fully in the Deep South. Houston is not. But I could be wrong.
Well Georgia is a deep South state for sure, but myself and others tend to think of the deep South as subregional--basically the coastal plain areas of the South historically characterized by slavery and an agrarian economy. With that in mind, I don't typically think of north Georgia, the Piedmont/mountainous region, as deep South. But I will say that even though Atlanta is in the Piedmont geographically, migration trends over several decades have given it a noticeable deep South cultural influence. I like Nairobi's choice of words--it's a gateway to the deep South.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Most of the people who say that Houston isn't is somehow shamed of the Deep South. Those Austin Hippies hate being associated with the deep south. You walking around many of the neighborhoods- Third Ward, Sunny Side, Acres Homes, A lot of the east side , a lot of the South Side, a lot of the north side of the metro just screams deep south.

Of course the richer areas don't feel a lot like it, but every city has its share of rich areas that don't feel deep south.

FYI I think the areas around Austin and San Antonio are 100% southern
From Gunspoint to Mo City is deep south.

Never been to Austin or San Antone but I've had an extended stay in Waco, a different type of southern maybe.
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