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Old 08-17-2012, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Savannah, Georgia
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No major cities. No pro sports teams. No major population growth. Always the center of negative stereotypes in the media and in the minds of northerners. Will Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, and Kentucky ever gain the same popularity as Florida, Georgia, Virginia, Louisiana, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Texas?
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:28 PM
 
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Wait a second...we're gonna have to check the "no major cities" and "no pro sports teams" stipulations:

Alabama, Kentucky - each has a city with over 1 million population (Birmingham, Louisville)
Virginia, South Carolina - neither has pro sports and only one or two cities with over 1 million population

I'm pretty sure all of the south is the center of negative stereotypes in the minds of northerners.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:43 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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No major cities. No pro sports teams. No major population growth. Always the center of negative stereotypes in the media and in the minds of northerners. Will Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, and Kentucky ever gain the same popularity as Florida, Georgia, Virginia, Louisiana, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Texas?
Give it time. If you went back 50 years, or maybe even less, than North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia and Georgia were all looked down upon. Now many people look at them as the Promised Land to buy your dream house.

And Florida is even further along this route. But while Florida is still growing, parts of it are starting to get built up so that is why more and more people are choosing the above states which are less crowded and less costly.

The country's population is growing rapidly. We just passed the 300 million mark a few years ago and we will pass the 400 million mark within the lifetime of many of us. And many many of them will be looking at the South and as the above states begin to get built up, the remaining low cost states like Mississippi and Alabama are going to look more and more attractive.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Wait a second...we're gonna have to check the "no major cities" and "no pro sports teams" stipulations:

Alabama, Kentucky - each has a city with over 1 million population (Birmingham, Louisville)
Virginia, South Carolina - neither has pro sports and only one or two cities with over 1 million population

I'm pretty sure all of the south is the center of negative stereotypes in the minds of northerners.
That's misleading. None of the states you listed have a city over 300,000 people.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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No major cities. No pro sports teams. No major population growth. Always the center of negative stereotypes in the media and in the minds of northerners. Will Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, and Kentucky ever gain the same popularity as Florida, Georgia, Virginia, Louisiana, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Texas?
In a short answer, probably not.
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:07 PM
 
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Louisiana is in your list of "good" southern states? Last time I checked they're in worse shape than some of the "bad" southern states, especially after Katrina. Hate to say it but most people don't see Louisiana as a hub of economic growth or "the new south". And their politicians are a joke, from "Mr. Chocolate City" Ray Nagin to diaper fetish perv David Vitter. Bobby Jindal is about the only politician there who holds a degree of respect from people.

Tennessee has Nashville which is cool, but outside of it people think of it as Hee Haw.

I think South Carolina has a bright future ahead but it will take a while for the Strom Thurmond legacy to wear off. Politics there are super bizarre as well. Charleston could take off but it's still a relatively small city. The rest of the state isn't growing that much.

I would agree that the rest of the states are sort of "the A team" in the south (at least in the mind of outsiders). Although I'd argue that folks in Louisiana or Alabama could really give a flying crap about what the yankees think of them. In fact, they probably welcome their hatred.

Last thing: Outsiders still view all of the south as redneck, ghetto and backwards, but now they'll make a few exceptions. For instance, I think someone from New York who was moving down to Atlanta would definitely stress that he is moving to ATLANTA and not GEORGIA. People still view the state as a whole as redneck and exclude Atlanta, kind of like how NoVA is considered separate from Virginia.

To answer your question, those states didn't invest or change their image in time so it'll be hard to create any new boomtowns there.
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:11 PM
 
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That's misleading. None of the states you listed have a city over 300,000 people.
Um...Louisville? Birmingham? Over 1 million. You do know we're talking about metro areas, right? If we weren't, none of the southern states would have a city with population above 1 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisville,_Kentucky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham,_Alabama
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:14 PM
 
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I think South Carolina has a bright future ahead but it will take a while for the Strom Thurmond legacy to wear off. Politics there are super bizarre as well. Charleston could take off but it's still a relatively small city. The rest of the state isn't growing that much.
Not true at all. Myrtle Beach is actually the fastest-growing metro in the state, and the Columbia metro added more people in the last decade than Charleston (although Charleston had a higher growth rate). The Greenville metro is also in the same vicinity as far as growth rates go and its urbanized area had one of the highest growth rates in the country over the last decade. Suburban Charlotte (York, portions of Lancaster counties) also saw significant growth.
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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Alabama has its areas with lots of transplants, parts of Baldwin County are almost unrecognizable compared to ten years ago. The northeast part of the state also seems to be getting a lot of people from central and south Florida.
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:09 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Not true at all. Myrtle Beach is actually the fastest-growing metro in the state, and the Columbia metro added more people in the last decade than Charleston (although Charleston had a higher growth rate). The Greenville metro is also in the same vicinity as far as growth rates go and its urbanized area had one of the highest growth rates in the country over the last decade. Suburban Charlotte (York, portions of Lancaster counties) also saw significant growth.

According to the census Charleston added 23,433 people from 2000 to 2010 growth 24.2% while Columbia only added 12,944 for the same period. 11-2% .
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