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Old 08-20-2012, 12:02 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Should I keep going?
How do any of those imply northern superiority?

DC is a fine town but its southern. Sorry gents, this boat has sailed already. Your history says so, your culture says so, your development form says so, your socioeconomic status says so (Richmond Fed), your interests say so, if your economy collapses southerners (from NC-SC-VA-MD-DC) will be paying your debt not northerners (PA-NJ-NY-New England).

So how do we even have a right to claim DC when its not even economically interwined with our region as much as it is with some of the southern states?

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Old 08-20-2012, 12:09 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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How do any of those imply northern superiority?

DC is a fine town but its southern. Sorry gents, this boat has sailed already.
How does it not? It doesn't matter really, since notherners are moving down south in droves.
 
Old 08-20-2012, 12:15 AM
 
Location: New York City
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How does it not? It doesn't matter really, since notherners are moving down south in droves.
Yes because the south and west are best poised for global emergence from the Asian and Latin trade markets. Europe is in economical shambles and its starting to affect the northeast, in the last year NYC and Philly's unemployment rates have actually increased to above national average and our markets in finance and trade are at stake unless the Euro markets can stabilize themselves. Unemployment Rates for Metropolitan Areas
Ironically none of this has affected DC because of its government and military bubble, military being another strong southern industry of the present (Virginia Beach, Norfolk, San Antonio, Jacksonville, Huntsville, etc).

The saying is as Europe goes, so does the northeast. We will be fine but we're about to see a few bumps in our path right now. We rely strongly on Europes market and we need Europe to be strong, it makes us stronger because of our location but that's not the case right now. We're already seeing reprecutions. The future is south and west right now, those markets are tied to an emerging part of the world especially California, Texas, and Florida. DC will benefit from them the most, all 3 of those states are the largest tax donors in raw along with New York but we have our hands tied at the moment.

U.S. Regional Outlook: Effects of a Global Slowdown

I have nothing against the south. I am just a fan of history. The northeast will be ok, we will figure this Europe situation out and work around it and prosper but there are road blocks right now. That's undeniable.

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Old 08-20-2012, 12:23 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Yes because the south and west are best poised for global emergence from the Asian and Latin trade markets. Europe is in economical shanbles and its starting to affect the northeast, in the last year NYC and Philly's unemployment rates have actually increased to above national average and our markets in finance and trade are at stake unless the Euro markets can stabilize themselves. Unemployment Rates for Metropolitan Areas
Ironically none of this has affected DC because of its government and military bubble, military being another strong southern industry of the present (Virginia Beach, Norfolk, San Antonio, Jacksonville, Huntsville, etc).

The saying is as Europe goes, so does the northeast. We will be fine but we're about to see a few bumps in out path right now. We rely strongly on Europes market and we need Europe to be strong, it makes us stronger because of our location but that's not the case right now. We're already seeing reprecutions. The future is south and west right now, those markets are tied to an emerging part of the world especially California, Texas, and Florida. DC will benefit from them the most, all 3 of those states are the largest tax donors in raw along with New York but we have our hands tied at the moment.

U.S. Regional Outlook: Effects of a Global Slowdown

I have nothing against the south. I am just a fan of history.
Do you think think DC would prosper regardless of its location?
 
Old 08-20-2012, 12:35 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Do you think think DC would prosper regardless of its location?
Hard to tell. I imagine so. Even with a cut in government spending DC has still become more powerful in other industries. Government shrinkage wont stop DC from prospering it will only slightly slow it down.

DC now controls all of American media from news broadcasts, to internet, to newspaper. It controls America's leisure industries with both Hilton and Marriott headquartered in the area, so as tourism gets bigger so do the leading leisure names in tourism. DC is now a big player in tech and has forced companies to expand to the area at first for the government but now for the strength of DC attracting some of the brightest minds in the world. I see DC continuing to march on, even a cut in government wont stop the expansions in leaisure (DC's highest recorded ever this year), tech (still booming), DC's increasing role in energy (Alberta and Texas), finance (government force), etc.

DC's finances and banking responsibilities are tied to Richmond (Richmond Fed handles MD-DC-VA-NC-SC) and so is its defense and military infrastructure. That's the benefit of DC straddling two regions, it can pick which one to draw its power from selectively.

For the first time in US history does a president control the healthcare and energy industry as much, first time ever Washington controls all US media.

Obama’s Media Control Strategy

Hello executive order http://godfatherpolitics.com/6180/ob...PWpKq8mk.email

Make no doubt about it, DC will slowdown with government cuts but its in to many other things to feel hurt by the cuts at this point IMO.

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Old 08-20-2012, 12:52 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Hard to tell. I imagine so. Even with a cut in government spending DC has still become more power in other industries. Government shrinkage wont stop DC from prospering it will only slightly slow it down.

DC now controls all of American media from news broadcasts, to internet, to newspaper. It controls America's leaisure industries with both Hilton and Marriott headquartered in the area, so as tourism gets bigger so do the leading leisure names in tourism. DC is now a big player in tech and has forced companies to expand to the area at first for the government but now for the strength of DC attracting some of the brightest minds in the world. I see DC continuing to march on, even a cut in government wont stop the expansions in leaisure (DC's highest recorded ever this year), tech (still booming), DC's increasing role in energy (Alberta and Texas), finance (government force), etc.

DC's finances and banking infrastructure are tied to Richmond (Richmond Fed handles MD-DC-VA-NC-SC) and so is its defense and military infrastructure. That's the benefit of DC straddling two regions, it can pick which one to draw its power from selectively.

For the first time in US history does a president control the healthcare and energy industry as much, first time ever Washington controls all US media.

Obama’s Media Control Strategy

Hello executive order Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him and Federal Government Control of All Forms of Communication Under Any Circumstance - Godfather Politics

Make no doubt about it, DC will slowdown with government cuts but its in to many other things to feel hurt by the cuts at this point IMO.

Thank you for the imformative answer.
 
Old 08-20-2012, 01:05 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Thank you for the imformative answer.
Living in the Northeast we have no worries of Washington imploding, financially the states of MD-VA-NC-SC are the ones tied to Washington's financial industry (as well as manufacturing, real estate, etc) most and they have reasons to be cautious. As Washington goes so do MD-VA-DC-NC-SC.

Washington is in a better place now than it was 15 years ago when government was its only industry, its more diverse and dynamic now. That's the good news for those of you living in those states.

Still remain cautious

http://www.economy.com/dismal/articl...1-B8BAD5B597C9

If DC's economy collapses, southerners will be the ones paying for it (debt) in North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, and Maryland not northerners.
 
Old 08-20-2012, 01:09 AM
 
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Living in the Northeast we have no worries of Washington imploding, financially the states of MD-VA-NC-SC are the ones tied to Washington's financial industry (as well as manufacturing, real estate, etc) most and they have reasons to be cautious. As Washington goes so do MD-VA-DC-NC-SC.

Washington is in a better place now than it was 15 years ago when government was its only industry, its more diverse and dynamic now. That's the good news for those of you living in those states.

Still remain cautious

U.S. Regional Outlook: Effects of a Global Slowdown
Maryland is going as we speak.
 
Old 08-20-2012, 02:30 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Oh, who cares?! That war is over and this is the United States of America. End. Of. Story. If people want to specify an area of this vast nation, well, that's why the states have their names.
I think we've established that love.
 
Old 08-20-2012, 04:12 AM
 
Location: Atlanta & NYC
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Is being from the northeast a badge of honor??
I wear it like it's one!
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