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Old 11-04-2012, 10:30 AM
 
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There re lots of Californians moving to Oregon, but race doesn't have anything to do with it.
Especially considering that many families moving up north are Hispanic and African American.
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:10 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Exactly

People are fleeing California by the droves because the economy sucks, not because of race.

The same gas they pay $5.00 a gallon out there I pay $3.00 here in Texas.
Funny I just got my hands on some $3.75 a gallon gas out here in California " what's gives " (?)
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Old 11-04-2012, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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The percentage of White non-Hispanic people in California fell because the Asian and Latino populations grew at a faster rate. So while the NH White percentage went down, the absolute number went up. Not White flight.
Ehh, not really. The non-Hispanic White and Black population in California has fallen in the past 10 years

State - California

California non-Hispanic White 2000: 15,816,790
California non-Hispanic Black 2000: 2,181,926
California Hispanic 2000: 10,966,556
California Asian 2000: 3,648,860

California non-Hispanic White 2010: 14,956,253
California non-Hispanic Black 2010: 2,163,804
California Hispanic 2010: 14,013,719
California Asian 2010: 4,775,070

CHANGE 2000-2010 non-Hispanic White: -860,537
CHANGE 2000-2010 non-Hispanic Black: -18,122
CHANGE 2000-2010 Hispanic: +3,047,163
CHANGE 2000-2010 Asian: +1,126,110

However, I think the most important thing to note is that in the United States generally, the White and Black growth rates have slowed down greatly (lower birthrates + births-deaths + immigration from White and Black countries) while the Asian and Hispanic population has been following the near same trend as the past 30 years.

It doesn't change the fact that the non-Hispanic White and Black population of CA is falling though. I don't think its race related as much as it has to do with cost of living.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:56 PM
 
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Aah, the White flight hasn't happened. The White Non-Hispanic population of California increased 6.4% between 2000 and 2010. The Asian and Latino population grew more quickly, the Black population grew more slowly. No doubt there were individual racist families who engaged in White flight, but it wasn't a mass phenomenon.
Except of course that it dropped by 860,537 people, easily the most of any state.......

I think it's actually historic because right about now in 2012 the state is statistically suppose to be the first where the white population is smaller than another population (in this case Hispanic).
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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I think it's actually historic because right about now in 2012 the state is statistically suppose to be the first where the white population is smaller than another population (in this case Hispanic).
New Mexico and Hawaii disagree. For a brief time, non-Hispanic Whites outnumbered Hispanics in New Mexico, but that was short lived

It's important to remember that people who are half Hispanic/half-non Hispanic (of any 'race'), they are considered Hispanic on the US census since Hispanic isn't a 'race'.

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Old 11-04-2012, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Funny I just got my hands on some $3.75 a gallon gas out here in California " what's gives " (?)
Ah yes...its gone down & right at election time how conveinient for Mr. O?

Santa Barbara is still $4.19 a gallon.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:12 PM
 
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It's pretty obvious to anyone who has lived or is living in CA that the white population has dropped by a lot. I've seen entire cities such as the wealthy affluent suburb of San Marino become asian within the past decade when it was once a stronghold of uber rich white professionals. I think it was even Republican at some point. It's still an affluent suburb it's just that it's all wealthy asian professionals living there now.

The same goes for Arcadia, San Gabriel, West Covina, etc.. I can go on and on. It's been a constant exodus. It really hasn't hurt real estate value in CA simply because there's been a trickle of wealthy asian immigrants from Taiwan, mainland China, etc.. picking up the economic slack.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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Just to let you guys know, the Non-Hispanic White population of the US only grew by 2,264,228 people (or 1.2%) from 2000-2010. 15 states declined in Non-Hispanic White population in raw numbers, and a further 5 more states had white populations grow slower than the national average (1.2%)

http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/b...c2010br-05.pdf

Non-Hispanic White Highest % change 2000-2010

-DC- 31.6%
1. Utah: 16.7%
2. Idaho: 15.5%
3. Arizona: 12.9%
4. Nevada: 12.2%
5. South Carolina: 11.7%
5. Hawaii: 11.6%
6. Wyoming: 10.3%
7. North Carolina: 10.2%
8. Colorado: 9.9%
9. Montana: 7.5%
10. Alaska: 7.4%

Non-Hispanic White Fastest % decline 2000-2010

1. Rhode Island: -6.4%
2. New Jersey: -6.2%
3. California: -5.4%
4. Massachusetts: -4.1%
5. New York: -3.9%
Maryland: -3.9%
7. Connecticut: -3.5%
8. Illinois: -3.0%
Michigan: -3.0%
10. Pennsylvania: -2.2%
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:05 AM
 
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Just to let you guys know, the Non-Hispanic White population of the US only grew by 2,264,228 people (or 1.2%) from 2000-2010. 15 states declined in Non-Hispanic White population in raw numbers, and a further 5 more states had white populations grow slower than the national average (1.2%)

http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/b...c2010br-05.pdf

Non-Hispanic White Highest % change 2000-2010

-DC- 31.6%
1. Utah: 16.7%
2. Idaho: 15.5%
3. Arizona: 12.9%
4. Nevada: 12.2%
5. South Carolina: 11.7%
5. Hawaii: 11.6%
6. Wyoming: 10.3%
7. North Carolina: 10.2%
8. Colorado: 9.9%
9. Montana: 7.5%
10. Alaska: 7.4%
The other states are pretty obvious but Hawaii is the most intriguing stat on that list. Are these mostly old white wealthy retirees going to the island to live in isolated communities? It's a state that has a high % of asian-americans so you would think it would be a natural deterrent for that demographic.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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The other states are pretty obvious but Hawaii is the most intriguing stat on that list. Are these mostly old white wealthy retirees going to the island to live in isolated communities? It's a state that has a high % of asian-americans so you would think it would be a natural deterrent for that demographic.
Well, its not like Hawaii has a high white population to begin with, so any fluctuation upward will reflect in a higher percentage growth.

A huge chunk of of the non-Hispanic Whites who live on HI are either affiliated with the US military, missionaries, or descendants of Portuguese labor hands who worked on the plantations in HI. As for growth nowadays, I get the impression its retirees, but HI isn't the cheapest place in the world to retire. Who knows.
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